1921 Missouri Commemorative, Fake or Real?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Mountain Man, Oct 19, 2021.

  1. Mountain Man

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    I bid on this coin, and won it, knowing it was a well circulated coin. Upon receiving it, my immediate gut feeling was that it is a fake. It just doesn't look right to me and knowing that this commemorative is a high priced item, I know it is counterfeited, but in this worn condition, I wouldn't expect it, and maybe that's why counterfeiters make them look worn.
    Anyway, it is 12.3 g and should be 12.5. It is 29.8 mm and should be 30.6, but taking account for wear, is that close enough to mint specs to be acceptable?
    It is NOT magnetic.
    I'd like members thoughts and please guess the grade. I think I know, but don't want to put any ideas in anyone's head.
    Thanks in advance.

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  3. Kentucky

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    Looks OK to me, but what do I know? Let's see what others say.
     
  4. 1stSgt22

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  5. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Looks fine to me.
     
  6. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    I think it is real. Nice coin.
     
  7. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    The dimensions of the coin would make me question its authenticity as well, if the reeding isnt worn completely off, it should scream fake.

    Edit to add : Notice on the coinfacts coin the point on southeast star is pointing directly at the end of the tail on the designer's initials. On the OP's coin it is not and the other stars/points are not quite right as well.
     
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  8. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

  9. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    The pictures make it look good, but if the diameter is really off by that much, it’s concerning.

    I have read that the plain Missouri half dollars were mostly sold at the fair to non collectors, farmers, who slipped them into their overalls and didn’t preserve them very well. Therefore the fact that it’s worn is not a concern. The smaller diameter is.
     
  10. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    Out on a limb saying op's is 'cast'........
     
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  12. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    I like it MM. My guess MS-60 could be MS-62, in my opinion. Thanks and good luck. Personally, I can't see you bidding on a fake. You are to knowledgeable for that!
     
  13. Mountain Man

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  14. Mountain Man

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    Thank you for the compliment, but in my old age, I find that I make silly mistakes and miss things, so one never knows for sure. LOL
     
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  15. Mountain Man

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    Anyone out there have an overlay that might help?
     
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