1919 Mercury Dime DDO Discovery Piece

Thank you for the advice, I will send it in. Thanks again for the help!

 

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Your welcome Alan. Good luck on your future hunts.

 

Nice find Jeff congrats!

 

• 96 years, and Jeff, your the 1st. to notice. My mind is boggled!

 

FYI - We're up to 10 reported/confirmed.

1) ANACS VF-20 - Discovery piece (StrikeOutXXX / Jeff Sam) > Leo Frese
2) NCS AU-50 Details - Environmental Problems - Confirmation piece - Own inventory - John Hodson
3) PCGS VG-8 unattributed, then ANACS VG-8, back to PCGS VG-8 Attributed - Bulk over the counter B&M Purchase (KearneyCC / Bjorn Bergstrom) > Leo Frese > Rich Uhrich
4) ANACS EF-40 > PCGS XF-40 - small show Portland, OR (Dealer folder unattributed) - (jtlee321/Justin) > Leo Frese > Great Collections
5) NGC - Good - Owner Unknown
6) NGC - Good - Owner Unknown
7) NGC - Good - Owner Unknown
8) XF - Shown to Rick Snow in Baltimore 7/15 - No further details yet.
9) AG Details - Damaged - Roll searching, Alan Davis -Cointalk forums.
10) Good - Natchez14 (NGC Message Boards)

Several of these have sold already, and based on the initial selling prices, a "Rough Guide" would go something like this:

G = $3,000
VG = $4,000
F = $4,500
VF = $5,000
XF = $6,000

Also, the #4 coin (Now PCGS XF-40) was recently consigned to Great Collections and will be in an upcoming auction - that will be the first "True Auction" of these, which may rewrite the pricing scales.

 

Thank you for the update Jeff!! I had been wondering if any new news had come along. Where did you hear about the Great Collections news?

 

Ian Russell replied over on the NGC forums - I wasn't sure where the PCGS XF-40 showed up in the Pop Reports from, was either the ANACS EF-40 that got crossed, or the raw "XF" Example shown to Rick Snow last summer in Baltimore - Ian just confirmed it was crossed to prep for sale from the ANACS example (Your original find).

 

Wow! I'm gonna have to try and cherry pick me one of these.

 

Quite a few of us have been trying since February. They are out there to be found. It just looks like not very many of them.

 

It was threads like this one that got me to look through my junk. Sometimes the sun shines on an old dog!

 

For your viewing pleasure.. The link to the Great Collections auction on the PCGS XF-40 example.

http://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/326866/1919-Mercury-Dime-DDO-FS-101-PCGS-XF-40

 

That is Great Collections, not Heritage.

 

Haha!! Your right! I knew that. But my brain for some reason wanted to say Heritage. Stupid brain farts..

I got the link correct though..

 

Haven't updated this in awhile, but a few more have showed up in pop reports and think 3 are on eBay right now. Pretty sure I have no duplicates thus far as I have pics of them all except the one shown to Rick Snow, will probably be harder to keep a census pretty soon as more come out of the woodwork, but we're up to 14 known (to me).



1) ANACS VF-20 - Discovery piece (StrikeOutXXX / Jeff Sam) > Leo Frese
2) NCS AU-50 Details - Environmental Problems - Confirmation piece - Own inventory - John Hodson
3) PCGS VG-8 unattributed, then ANACS VG-8, back to PCGS VG-8 Attributed - Bulk over the counter B&M Purchase (KearneyCC / Bjorn Bergstrom) > Leo Frese > Rich Uhrich
4) ANACS EF-40 > PCGS XF-40 - small show Portland, OR (Dealer folder unattributed) - (jtlee321/Justin) > Leo Frese > ? > Great Collections ($9,075)
5) NGC - Good - Owner Unknown
6) NGC - Good - Owner Unknown
7) NGC - Good - Owner Unknown
8) XF - Shown to Rick Snow in Baltimore 7/15
9) AG Details - Damaged - Roll searching, Alan Davis -Cointalk forums
10) Good - 90% merc bag find - Natchez14 - (NGC Message Boards)
11) VG - 3/18/16 auction listed on eBay raw - owner unknown (seller: flcoins - $2,250)
12) PCGS - AG-3 - Owner Unknown > (eBay seller: cbcoins03)
13) NGC - AG-3 - Owner Unknown > (eBay seller: boyernumismatics)
14) PCGS - GENUINE EdgeDmg - F Details > (eBay seller: fresebrothers)
15) GET TO CHERRYPICKING

 

Something similar happened to me with a discovery (now listed). PCGS would not confirm the "naked-eye" variety until another showed up. SHAME ON BOTH NGC & PCGS! I've seen PCI, ICG, and ANACS slabs with "Discovery Piece" on the labels.

 

In my experience, you can walk into an "old-timey" coin shop (if you can find one) with latest Coin World or Numismatic News on the counter with a huge photo of a new discovery and the dealer will not know about it and in two cases in fifty years - actually have a specimen for sale unattributed in his the case! Fortunately for us "cherrypickers", they just don't have enough time in the day to keep up with things.

 

Quick update, we're up to 17 known of this Doubled Die:

1) PCGS VF-20 (From ANACS VF-20) Discovery piece (StrikeOutXXX / Jeff Sam) > Leo Frese > Great Collections
PCGS Cert: 545047.20/81388342 - ANACS Cert was: 4815681

2) NCS AU-50 Details - Environmental Problems - Confirmation piece - John Hodson
Cert: Unknown

3) PCGS VG-8 (From ANACS VG-8) - Bulk over the counter B&M Purchase (KearneyCC / Bjorn Bergstrom) > Leo Frese > Rich Uhrich
Cert: 545047.08/32476123

4) PCGS XF-40 (From ANACS EF-40)- small show Portland, OR (Dealer folder unattributed) - (jtlee321/Justin) > Leo Frese > ? > Great Collections ($9,075)
Cert: 545047.40/29996937

5) NGC - G6 - Owner Unknown
Cert: 3837672-003

6) NGC - G6 - Owner Unknown
Cert: 3837672-004

7) NGC - G4 - Owner Unknown
Cert: 3837672-005

8) PCGS XF-45 - Shown to Rick Snow in Baltimore 7/15 - Rick acquired 7/16 & submitted.
Cert: 545047.45/81423166

9) AG Details - Damaged - Roll searching, Alan Davis -Cointalk forums
RAW

10) Good - 90% merc bag find - Natchez14 - (NGC Message Boards)
RAW

11) VG - 3/18/16 auction listed on eBay raw - owner unknown (seller: flcoins - $2,250)
RAW

12) PCGS - AG-3 - Owner Unknown > (eBay seller: cbcoins03)
Cert: 545047.03/80661866

13) NGC - AG-3 - Owner Unknown > (eBay seller: boyernumismatics)
Cert: 2687209-003

14) PCGS - GENUINE EdgeDmg - F Details > (eBay seller: fresebrothers)
Cert: 545047.98/80510296

15) PCGS - Good (Pop reports, unsure if new/cross at this time)
Cert: Unknown

16) NGC - AG-3 - (eBay seller: dwp23/Forum Member CLC2010) - Local Show Junk Bin
(7/7 - eBay $816.66 + .99 Ship)
Cert: 4231740-003

17) PCGS - FR-2 - Dennis Tarrant (Numisma) & Victor Romero - Bag Searching > GreatCollections Soon
Cert: Unknown

18) GET TO CHERRYPICKING

 

Been awhile since I updated this, we're up to 20 known now.

CURRENT CENSUS:

1) PCGS VF-20 (From ANACS VF-20) Discovery piece (StrikeOutXXX / Jeff Sam) > Leo Frese > Great Collections (8/16 - $3,960 (3600 + 360))
PCGS Cert: 545047.20/81388342 - ANACS Cert was: 4815681

2) NCS AU-50 Details - Environmental Problems - Confirmation piece - John Hodson
Cert: Unknown

3) PCGS VG-8 (From ANACS VG-8) - Bulk over the counter B&M Purchase (KearneyCC / Bjorn Bergstrom) > Leo Frese > Rich Uhrich
Cert: 545047.08/32476123

4) PCGS XF-40 (From ANACS EF-40)- small show Portland, OR (Dealer folder unattributed) - (jtlee321/Justin) > Leo Frese > ? > 2/14/16 - Great Collections ($9,075 ($8,250 + $825))
Cert: 545047.40/29996937

5) NGC - G6 - Owner Unknown
Cert: 3837672-003

6) NGC - G6 - Owner Unknown
Cert: 3837672-004

7) NGC - G4 - Owner Unknown
Cert: 3837672-005

8) PCGS XF-45 - Shown to Rick Snow in Baltimore 7/15 - Rick acquired 7/16 & submitted.
Cert: 545047.45/81423166

9) AG Details - Damaged - Roll searching, Alan Davis -Cointalk forums
RAW

10) Good - 90% merc bag find - Natchez14 - (NGC Message Boards)
RAW

11) VG - 3/18/16 auction listed on eBay raw - owner unknown (seller: flcoins - $2,250)
RAW

12) PCGS - AG-3 - Owner Unknown > (eBay seller: cbcoins03)
Cert: 545047.03/80661866

13) NGC - AG-3 - Owner Unknown > (eBay seller: boyernumismatics) - Consigned - Dealer inventory find in dated rolls.
Cert: 2687209-003

14) PCGS - GENUINE EdgeDmg - F Details > (eBay seller: fresebrothers)
Cert: 545047.98/80510296

15) PCGS - Good (Pop reports, owner unknown)
Cert: Unknown

16) NGC - AG-3 - (eBay seller: dwp23/Forum Member CLC2010) - Local Show Junk Bin (7/7/16 - eBay $816.66 + .99 Ship)
Cert: 4231740-003

17) PCGS - FR-2 - Dennis Tarrant (Numisma) & Victor Romero - Bag Searching > GreatCollections (9/4/16 - GC $606.83 ($551.66 + $55.17))
Cert: 545047.02/81692204

18) PCGS VG-10 - Sandman70gt - older unnoticed eBay set purchase
Cert: 545047.10/81866568

19) PCGS - GENUINE - Cleaning - AG Details (Junk silver find - eBay 10/23/16 sold without DDO in listing for $203.53)
Cert: 545047.92/81862971

20) NGC - VG-10 - Owner Unknown
Cert: 4334552-004

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CONDITION CENSUS:

Census coin #, grade

Certified Straight Grade or Problem-Free Raw
(8) PCGS XF-45
(4) PCGS XF-40
(1) PCGS VF-20
(20) NGC VG-10
(18) PCGS VG-10
(3) PCGS VG-8
(11) RAW - VG
(5) NGC G-6
(6) NGC G-6
(7) NGC G-4
(15) PCGS G-4
(10) RAW - Good
(16) NGC AG-3
(13) NGC AG-3
(12) PCGS AG-3
(17) PCGS FR-2

Issues/Problem Coins
(2) NCS AU-50 Details - Environmental Problems
(14) PCGS F Details - Genuine - Edge Dmg
(19) PCGS AG Details - Genuine - Cleaning
(9) RAW - AG Details, Damaged

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SALES HISTORY:
In addition to several exchanging hands privately, there have been 6 completed “Public” sales (eBay and Great Collections) so far. Prices include GC
buyers premium, and eBay shipping.

(4) PCGS XF40 - $9,075 (2/2016 GC)
(1) PCGS VF20 - $3,960 (8/2016 GC)
(11) Raw VG - $2,250 (7/2016 eBay)
(16) NGC AG3 - $817.65 (9/2016 GC)
(17) PCGS FR2 - $606.83 (9/2016 eBay)
(19) PCGS Genuine AG Details - Cleaning $203.53 (Wasn't properly advertised as DDO in auction) (10/2016 eBay)

 

Been over a year since I added any info to this - we only had 4 more show up in 2017 bringing the total up to 24 examples. Here is a copy of the census I keep over at the PCGS Message Boards. Happy New Year - hope you find one this year!.
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Please let me know if you know of any changes or additional pieces

1) PCGS VF-20 (From ANACS VF-20) Discovery piece (StrikeOutXXX / Jeff Sam) > Leo Frese > Great Collections (8/16 - $3,960 (3600 + 360)) (2/26/17 Great Collections - $4,290 (3900 + 390)) > jwinter Reg Set
PCGS Cert: 545047.20/81388342 - ANACS Cert was: 4815681

2) NCS AU-50 Details - Environmental Problems - Confirmation piece - John Hodson
Cert: Unknown

3) PCGS VG-8 (From ANACS VG-8) - Bulk over the counter B&M Purchase (KearneyCC / Bjorn Bergstrom) > Leo Frese > Rich Uhrich
Cert: 545047.08/32476123

4) PCGS XF-40 (From ANACS EF-40)- small show Portland, OR (Dealer folder unattributed) - (jtlee321/Justin) > Leo Frese > ? > 2/14/16 - Great Collections ($9,075 ($8,250 + $825))
Cert: 545047.40/25606326 (Regraded from PCGS XF-40 Cert: 545047.40/29996937)

5) NGC - G6 - Owner Unknown
Cert: 3837672-003

6) NGC - G6 - Owner Unknown
Cert: 3837672-004

7) NGC - G4 - Owner Unknown
Cert: 3837672-005

8) PCGS XF-45 - Shown to Rick Snow in Baltimore 7/15 - Rick acquired 7/16 > Dimeman 10/2016
Cert: 545047.45/81423166

9) AG Details - Damaged - Roll searching, Alan Davis -Cointalk forums
RAW

10) Good - 90% merc bag find - Natchez14 - (NGC Message Boards)
RAW

11) VG - 3/18/16 auction listed on eBay raw - owner unknown (seller: flcoins - $2,250)
RAW

12) PCGS - AG-3 - Owner Unknown > (eBay seller: cbcoins03)
Cert: 545047.03/80661866

13) NGC - AG-3 - (Consigned to eBay seller: boyernumismatics) Was a dealer inventory roll find. > Sold for undisclosed 4-figure amount 5/2017. $1,399.99 - eBay 11/21/17
Cert: 2687209-003

14) PCGS - GENUINE EdgeDmg - F Details > (eBay seller: fresebrothers)
Cert: 545047.98/80510296

15) PCGS - Good (Pop reports, owner unknown)
Cert: Unknown

16) NGC - AG-3 - (eBay seller: dwp23/Forum Member CLC2010) - Local Show Junk Bin (7/7/16 - eBay $816.66 + .99 Ship)
Cert: 4231740-003

17) PCGS - FR-2 - Dennis Tarrant (Numisma) & Victor Romero - Bag Searching > GreatCollections (9/4/16 - GC $606.83 ($551.66 + $55.17))
Cert: 545047.02/81692204

18) PCGS VG-10 Sandman70gt - older unnoticed eBay set purchase
Cert: 545047.10/81866568

19) PCGS - GENUINE - Cleaning - AG Details (Junk silver find - eBay 10/23/16 sold without DDO in auction for $203.53)
Cert: 545047.92/81862971 > Resold on eBay with proper listing - $725.00 eBay 3/6/17

20) NGC - VG-10 - Owner Unknown
Cert: 4334552-004

21) NGC - AG-3 - (eBay seller: reputablediamondbuyers) - Sold 11/15/17 for "Best Offer Accepted" of $770 + $2.66 Shipping
Cert: 2713742-003

22) PCGS VG-8 - New to pop report 7/2017
Cert Unknown

23) NGC AG-3 - Greg Allen Coins, LLC - 90% bag searching
Cert: 4355126-010

24) PCGS - AG-3 - eBay Seller: kearneycc - 90% bag searching - sold $1,599.99 eBay 10/27/17 BIN
Cert: 545047.03/34199108

25) GET TO CHERRYPICKING

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CONDITION CENSUS:

Census coin #, grade

Certified Straight Grade or Problem-Free Raw
(8) PCGS XF-45
(4) PCGS XF-40
(1) PCGS VF-20
(20) NGC VG-10
(18) PCGS VG-10
(3) PCGS VG-8
(22) PCGS VG-8
(11) RAW - VG
(5) NGC G-6
(6) NGC G-6
(7) NGC G-4
(15) PCGS G-4
(10) RAW - Good
(16) NGC AG-3
(13) NGC AG-3
(21) NGC AG-3
(23) NGC AG-3
(12) PCGS AG-3
(24) PCGS AG-3
(17) PCGS FR-2

Issues/Problem Coins
(2) NCS AU-50 Details - Environmental Problems
(14) PCGS F Details - Genuine - Edge Dmg
(19) PCGS AG Details - Genuine - Cleaning
(9) RAW - AG Details, Damaged

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SALES HISTORY BY PRICE:
There have been several completed “Public” sales (eBay and Great Collections) so far. Prices include GC buyers premium, and eBay shipping. Private sales will be included if desired and verifiable.

(8) PCGS XF45 - $10,000 10/2017 - Private Sale: Rick Snow > Dimeman
(4) PCGS XF40 - $9,075 (2/14/2016 GC)
(1) PCGS VF20 - $4,290 (2/26/17 GC)
(1) PCGS VF20 - $3,960 (8/21/2016 GC)
(11) Raw VG - $2,250 (7/2016 eBay)
(24) PCGS AG3 - $1,599.99 (10/27/17 eBay - Buy It Now)
(13) NGC AG3 - $1,399.99 (11/21/17 eBay)
(16) NGC AG3 - $817.65 (9/2016 eBay)
(21) NGC AG3 - $772.66 (11/15/17 eBay Best Offer)
(19) PCGS Genuiine AG Details - Cleaning $725 (3/6/17 eBay) Resold with proper auction title
(17) PCGS FR2 - $606.83 (9/4/2016 GC)
(19) PCGS Genuine AG Details - Cleaning $203.53 (Not listed as DDO in auction) (10/2016 eBay)

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(4) PCGS XF40 - 5/3/17 Stacks/Bowers May 2017 Collectors Choice Online Auction - No Sale (Reserve Not Met of $7,500)
(3) PCGS VG8 - 8/3/16 Stacks/Bowers August 2016 Collectors Choice Online Auction - No Sale (Reserve Not Met of $3,400)

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SALES HISTORY CHRONOLOGICALLY:

(13) NGC AG3 - $1,399.99 (11/21/17 eBay)
(21) NGC AG3 - $772.66 (11/15/17 eBay Best Offer)
(24) PCGS AG3 - $1,599.99 (10/27/17 eBay - Buy It Now)
(8) PCGS XF45 - $10,000 10/2017 - Private Sale: Rick Snow > Dimeman
(19) PCGS Genuiine AG Details - Cleaning $725 (3/6/17 eBay) Resold with proper auction title
(1) PCGS VF20 - $4,290 (2/26/17 GC)
(19) PCGS Genuine AG Details - Cleaning $203.53 (Not listed as DDO in auction) (10/2016 eBay)
(16) NGC AG3 - $817.65 (9/2016 eBay)
(17) PCGS FR2 - $606.83 (9/4/2016 GC)
(1) PCGS VF20 - $3,960 (8/21/2016 GC)
(11) Raw VG - $2,250 (7/2016 eBay)
(4) PCGS XF40 - $9,075 (2/14/2016 GC)

 

Very interesting update, thanks for the info! I keep looking for one, but I haven't cherried one yet. I'm sure more are out there!