1919 Mercury Dime DDO Discovery Piece

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  1. coinman1234

    coinman1234 Not a Well-Known Member

    That is very great! I can not wait for the results. I hope that it will be put in books sugh cherry pickers guide and other reference books.
     
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  3. StrikeOutXXX

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    Hi folks - quick update. The 2nd specimen arrived to Bill Fivaz today and was confirmed to be from the same die.

    The press release was just sent out to the various organizations/news outlets, should be a write-up in the next issue or two for whoever runs with it in print or online.

    I would appreciate it if anyone finds one themselves or knows of one, if they could update this thread, or send me a message as there are a lot of folks going to be following populations closely to see how this one plays out for scarcity.

    Fun times! Happy Hunting.
    Jeff
     
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  4. StrikeOutXXX

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    With permission from Bill Fivaz, here is the motto from specimen #2, the XF piece.

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    As well as mine for comparison

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  5. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    just to confirm... PCGS and NGC are not interested in labelling discovery pieces. Even after my 82 Lincoln was published in all the major mags and labeled as the discovery piece in a PCI holder they wanted nothing to do with crossing it over with the "discovery piece" on their label.
     
  6. coinman1234

    coinman1234 Not a Well-Known Member

    What was the error on the '82 lincoln
     
  7. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    doubled die reverse on small date zinc, see my avatar...google will give links to many articles
     
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  8. HoosierDaddy

    HoosierDaddy Active Member

  9. StrikeOutXXX

    StrikeOutXXX Member

    Yea, that is how I understand it as well.

    In this case, ANACS reached out to me offering to grade it and do the discovery thing. I'm sure it will come with a web article/press release about how ANACS certified it (Much like the Native American error) but that's fine with me, it's a win-win situation for us both.

    Typically though, with PCGS/NGC mostly only doing varieties in published reference books, and with CONECA having probably dozens of varieties listed in their master files for every one published, there are A TON of varieties out there that can only get certified by ANACS, and those usually require an authentication letter/direct submission through one of CONECAs authenticators. You send your coin to them, who in turn submits it directly to ANACS for you. Short of that, there simply is no way to get an obscure, or in some cases a brand new variety certified by the top 3.

    So... did anyone find any of these cherrypicking at their local shows this weekend?

    The press release was sent out Thursday, I expect some outlets to start running the story this week, so if you haven't visited your local B&M to look, I'd do it quick before the story drops nationally.
     
  10. HoosierDaddy

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  11. StrikeOutXXX

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  12. paddyman98

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    Great find! I've been following your DDO Dime and post. Thanks for the article link!
     
  13. KurtS

    KurtS Die variety collector

    The XF piece is pretty dramatic--I'm surprised it went unnoticed for so long. I'm guessing it's pretty scarce.
     
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  14. StrikeOutXXX

    StrikeOutXXX Member

    Coin World's full article is now online:

    http://www.coinworld.com/insights/1919-winged-liberty-head-dime-has-doubled-die-obverse.html#

    They put a teaser story out a few days ago, and I saw one person say they found one on Facebook, but the post was removed, not sure if they were kidding, or they got tired of the bombardment of "Sell it to me" posts, but I still don't know of a 3rd piece being discovered yet.

    Hopefully the print article will uncover some more.

    Jeff
     
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  15. HoosierDaddy

    HoosierDaddy Active Member

    Love the internet dearly and here's why. Went to the coin show in Tinley Park, Il. today. Show ran Thurs/Fri/Sat. Each booth I went to had NO, I repeat NO 1919 Mercs. No kidding!

    Education is a biatch!
     
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  16. StrikeOutXXX

    StrikeOutXXX Member

    With the Coin World article out there now, I figured that would do 2 things.

    1) Get the collector community looking at every 1919 they can get their hands on

    2) Make the dealers pull every 1919 they have in inventory until they get a chance to look at them themselves.

    I still haven't heard of a 3rd piece discovered yet.
     
  17. Profit man

    Profit man Active Member

    Well, by making the dealers pull every 1919 they have in inventory is Going to make it harder for the collector community to get their hands on as many as they could've. So the question here is who's side are you on?
     
  18. StrikeOutXXX

    StrikeOutXXX Member

    Not really on anybody's side here, but the last few weeks before the article would have been the time for collectors to cherrypick these. I just figured those 2 things I mentioned would happen with the article, not that I wanted them to happen. Now that most of the dealers know, it will get harder for collectors to find them not attributed for sure.
     
  19. HoosierDaddy

    HoosierDaddy Active Member

    And the coolest part. Twice I was asked what date I was looking for. Both times I told them and I got the dirtiest look. Was cool!
     
  20. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    That's funny. I was at a small show and mentioned there was a newly discovered DDO to 3 or 4 of the dealers there. None of them were all that interested. Just for laughs, one of the dealers even let me check the 1919 he had in his case for doubling. Of course, there was none.
     
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  21. KurtS

    KurtS Die variety collector

    There are also the dealers who don't care about varieties, or the person who sells their collection on ebay and knows nothing about DDOs or doesn't follow coin news. So I'm sure their will be more finds. :)
     
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