1919 D Cut Penny Error?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by pennycollectionfan, Jan 13, 2019 at 9:39 PM.

  1. pennycollectionfan

    pennycollectionfan New Member

    I am not sure if it is the cut penny or normal damage? What do you think? Thank you!
     

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  3. Hookman

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    At first glance, it appears to be a double-clipped planchet. If so, it's a real keeper and may have some value. Stay tuned for a member more experienced with these types of errors, to "chip" in with a more definitive answer.

    Thanks for posting such an incisive question, and most of all, Welcome to
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  4. pennycollectionfan

    pennycollectionfan New Member

    Thank you for your reply.
     
  5. Bate

    Bate Active Member

    double-clipped planchet
     
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  7. steve.e

    steve.e Cherry picker

    I'm not convinced it's an error. It looks like pmd post mint damage. There is upset rim behind the clips. I dont think this is possible.
    On genuine clipped planchets there is no rim on the clipped area.
     
  8. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Well-Known Member

    when I first saw this I didn't respond because I thought it look like someone made a spacer out of it a long time ago, thus two flat, parallel(ish) sides. But I'm definitely no expert on clipped planchets especially flat clips.
     
  9. Hookman

    Hookman Well-Known Member

    ^^^^^Thus, the statement : Stay tuned for a member more experienced with these types of errors, to "chip" in with a more definitive answer.
     
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  11. paddyman98

    paddyman98 No Common Cents! Supporter

    Same here.. I'm not to sure if it's a Clipped Planchet. Could be damaged.
     
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  12. Coincollctionfan

    Coincollctionfan New Member

    If it were clipped planchets. What will be the value for this penny. 1919 seems old.
     
  13. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster It seemed like a good idea at the time.

    Can't say for certain from the edge pics, but the edges look smooth and do not show the punch/tear characteristics of a true clip.

    I'm leaning towards damage after it left the mint. Clearer pics of the clipped edge would help.
     
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  14. Jersey magic man

    Jersey magic man Active Member

    If it's been circulating since 1919 the punch/tear characteristics may have become obliterated.
     
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  15. Nyatii

    Nyatii I like running w/scissors. Makes me feel dangerous

    I don't think you would see the inside of the rim so distinctly if it was clipped.
     
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  16. Hookman

    Hookman Well-Known Member

    Could it be that because it is such a small clip, that is why it looks the way it does, along with the wear that comes with a hundred years of circulation?
    I know that if I had come across this, or a similar coin, I would have been rubbing my fingers along those slight curves even as I looked at them.

    I don't know.
    What is the consensus?
     
  17. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    On clips I have seen, there is either evidence of the Blakesley effect, which would not be evident for this coin since it is at 180 degrees from the clip, and/or a slanting of devices at the clip down into the area of the clip. I don't see this second thing.
    Wonder what @Fred Weinberg would say...
     
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  19. Hookman

    Hookman Well-Known Member

    Perhaps these clips are so close to the rim that they don't show the normal things most clips show?
    Perhaps they only show the interior of the rim, so close to the edge that it only looks like more rim?

    This is suppositions and conjecture.
     
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  20. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    Post mint damage. the edge does not form like that on a clipped planchet.
    Do not forget what the upset mill does/does not do to a clipped planchet.
     
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