1918-S Lincoln - Guess The Grade

Sorry, I think it was probably body bagged. Bummer, it's very pretty.

 

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Are you in my corner with the rim or are you seeing something else?

 

Without seeing it in hand, it's hard to tell if the rim area you are talking about is damage or simply minor rim cuds. If it's just cuds, then it usually would not be downgraded for that.

 

Well, I would have intially thought 63 RB, but after listening to others I see the some problems. Personally I think the coin has great eye appeal, and the rim issues seam insignificant. I see the subdue carbon spots on the obverse and a few spots on the reverse. Probably got a AU 58 but should be higher based on technical grading. Maybe got a market down grade based on the problems.

 

Isn't that enough guesses bro? Give us the grade Thad (or lack thereof)! If it bagged, I bet if you resent it would eventually grade.

 

I really don't see anything wrong with this rim that would bring the grade down substaintially and bag this coin

What I see on this coin is a nice toned reverse coin natural to me and possible a end roll coin, which may bring the grade up.

The graders really are interested in the focal points of the coin which is the cheekbone area. The first area that always wears out is the cheekbone the upper cheekbone area , because it;s the highest point of the coin ,that wears first and the eye hits that area first when you look at the coin that;s why it;s the focal point of the coin .


I do see lite wear on the upper portions of the wheat stalks right side and some slit wear on the upper cheekbone area. I have a little problem when it comes to grade coins from a photo because photos can lie.

I have to say by the pics I would grade the coin AU58 range and NGC might even bumb it up a grade for the reverse toning I doubt it, because it;s really not an MS coin to me ,but pretty close I have to say.

JCormerly Jazzcoins Joe

 

This is the best assessment I have read. I agree with every word above by Joe.

 

I expected MS-63/64 and that's the money I paid.

 

Anything with graining they do not like and it is extremely difficult to see what they are doing. Someone once posted one here we thought was unc and they graded it XF (40 if I remember correctly). If you can explain the rest of our comments and your really think it is unc in hand, resubmit it.

 

I see no wear in hand. My local dealer says he see's no wear. I included the angle shots to it was easier to see what I see in hand. Look at that cheek! There's not a rub on it. The 1918-S mint coins strikes can be somewhat mushy, which may be mistaken for wear...but this one's pretty darn sharp. I guess I should be happy they graded it given NGC's paranoia over toned copper. This is the FIRST nicely toned coin they've graded for me.

 

Congrats Thad
You know my hesitation on grading from pics. I'll accept it as it is.

Do remember this, as a 58 holdered, and with that color, it will still trade fairly at 63ish money to those in the know.:thumb:

 

Thanks Jack, I guess I should ignore the price guides and feel good about my purchase and the fact the NCG graded a copper coin with color finally for me. Hey, I came out very well on the 09-S. The dealer I bought it from and I both agreed it was AUish, so the price was right.

 

Hey I am feeling pretty good on my grading, if I don't say. Right on this one and pretty close on your 1909 S. Your coins impacted me today Thad. I truly felt happy for you to have such great coins. I have a 64 RB 1909 S PCGS (woodgrain) and have a 1918 S (raw) probably AU 55 though not as nice as yours by any means. I kept thinking about your coins and how cool they look. I hope your happy. It made me happy to see them.

 

Thanks Boss! It's fun to share, this forum has become one of my favorites.

 

I have 3 1918-D's in stock, all 3 are PCGS AU-58 and all 3 are doggies compared to yours........

If holdered and as nice as it looks, pics aside, that is a C note easily.

 

I'm really surprised they tagged it as AU58, I don't see any wear.. anywhere! A very nice looking coin, with the woodgrain obv and rainbow rev.

 

Any think I can CAC this coin?

 

I don't think it would Thad, but I am no expert on this. I have sent in no coins to them. I would PM Mark Feld as he has a lot of experience here, it seems to me. I think this coins has some problems that would preclude it. Subtle dark spots above the 1918 to the Right of the portrait and below the Liberty, as well on the rev between the N and the States/America (generally center L on the reverse). It reminds me of my 1909 S VDB where the dellars coagulated and caused dark spots. Still a very attractive coin due to woodgrain and rainbow toning. Only $10 so wait for next coin show in your area and hand deliver and see what they say.

 

Based on the images, I probably would have guessed MS63RB. But NGC had the huge advantage of seeing the coin in-hand.

I don't think a CAC sticker would make any difference on a coin of that grade, so I wouldn't recommend submitting it. But I would guess they would sticker it. By the way, thus far, CAC has only been setting up at coin shows once each year - Coinfest.