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Message:: [QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 300638, member: 112"]I agree, it doesn't show less wear. I think it actually shows more. We are comparing apples to oranges rlm, you will never be able to find these coins graded by PCGS or NGC and have them match up to grades based on ANA standards. The standards used by the TPG's are much, much more lenient than those used by the ANA. And that is why I assign lower grades - I use ANA standards. Here's an example. ANA F12 standards - obverse - Gown details are worn but show clearly across body. Right leg is nearly flat and toe is worn. Breast is worn but some mail is visible. Date may show some weakness at top. Rim is full. Outer edge of shield is nearly complete. reverse - Breast is worn almost smooth. Half of the wing feathers are visible although well worn in spots. The rim is full. PCGS F12 standards - Though Type I and 1925-1930 Type II coins have strong dates in F12-15, the 1917-24 Type II coins may have weakness. The head, breast and shield are slightly blended with the leg worn flat. Only the deeply recessed feathers of the right wing will have detail, as the left wing feathers and body will be worn smooth. Now I think that just about anybody can see that there are significant differences in those 2 sets of standards for the same grade. And that the PCGS standards are much more lenient than those used by the ANA.[/QUOTE]