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<p>[QUOTE="NSP, post: 7942757, member: 74849"]The issue with the PCGS guarantee is that they could try to say that it’s a “mechanical error,” in which case someone could be left holding the bag. This is why it’s imperative to confirm that any attributions made by the TPG are correct (i.e., “buy the coin, not the holder”). Blindly trusting any TPG is a bad idea, as is refusing to question coins in their holders, as they are certainly not infallible.</p><p><br /></p><p>The differences outlined in the OP are not just unique to the two specific coins in the picture, but are different characteristics that are known pickup points for 1916 and 1917 quarters. The designs used for the two dates were slightly different, and as such, the coins are slightly different, even when extremely worn. For example, weak shield rivets, weak/excuse wall lines, the head breaking into the beading, etc. means the coin is a 1916, while strong shield rivets, strong incuse wall lines, head not breaking into the beading, etc. means the coin is a 1917. This can be seen on worn coins where the date is still visible. See below for examples of where the date is still visible, but the pickup points still hold true:</p><p><br /></p><p>Examples of 1916 quarters:</p><ul> <li><a href="https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/465084/1916-Standing-Liberty-Quarter-PCGS-G-04" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/465084/1916-Standing-Liberty-Quarter-PCGS-G-04" rel="nofollow">https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/465084/1916-Standing-Liberty-Quarter-PCGS-G-04</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/483640/1916-Standing-Liberty-Quarter-PCGS-G-04" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/483640/1916-Standing-Liberty-Quarter-PCGS-G-04" rel="nofollow">https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/483640/1916-Standing-Liberty-Quarter-PCGS-G-04</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/827691/1916-Standing-Liberty-Quarter-PCGS-G-06" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/827691/1916-Standing-Liberty-Quarter-PCGS-G-06" rel="nofollow">https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/827691/1916-Standing-Liberty-Quarter-PCGS-G-06</a></li> </ul><p>Examples of 1917 quarters:</p><ul> <li><a href="https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/11889/1917-Standing-Liberty-Quarter-Type-1-ANACS-G-06" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/11889/1917-Standing-Liberty-Quarter-Type-1-ANACS-G-06" rel="nofollow">https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/11889/1917-Standing-Liberty-Quarter-Type-1-ANACS-G-06</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/162363/1917-Standing-Liberty-Quarter-Type-1-ANACS-G-04" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/162363/1917-Standing-Liberty-Quarter-Type-1-ANACS-G-04" rel="nofollow">https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/162363/1917-Standing-Liberty-Quarter-Type-1-ANACS-G-04</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/1021541/1917-Standing-Liberty-Quarter-Type-1-NGC-VG-Details" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/1021541/1917-Standing-Liberty-Quarter-Type-1-NGC-VG-Details" rel="nofollow">https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/1021541/1917-Standing-Liberty-Quarter-Type-1-NGC-VG-Details</a></li> </ul><p>These coins reaffirm the diagnostic points outlined on the dateless coins in the OP.</p><p><br /></p><p>Both the OP PCGS coin and the referenced ICG coin exhibit strong shield rivets (which are the most readily apparent of all diagnostics, even with poor pictures) and incuse wall lines, which clinches them as 1917 quarters. Ultimately, if the coin’s diagnostics are saying “1917,” it doesn’t matter if the TPG says it’s “1916,” it’s still a 1917.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="NSP, post: 7942757, member: 74849"]The issue with the PCGS guarantee is that they could try to say that it’s a “mechanical error,” in which case someone could be left holding the bag. This is why it’s imperative to confirm that any attributions made by the TPG are correct (i.e., “buy the coin, not the holder”). Blindly trusting any TPG is a bad idea, as is refusing to question coins in their holders, as they are certainly not infallible. The differences outlined in the OP are not just unique to the two specific coins in the picture, but are different characteristics that are known pickup points for 1916 and 1917 quarters. The designs used for the two dates were slightly different, and as such, the coins are slightly different, even when extremely worn. For example, weak shield rivets, weak/excuse wall lines, the head breaking into the beading, etc. means the coin is a 1916, while strong shield rivets, strong incuse wall lines, head not breaking into the beading, etc. means the coin is a 1917. This can be seen on worn coins where the date is still visible. See below for examples of where the date is still visible, but the pickup points still hold true: Examples of 1916 quarters: [LIST] [*][URL]https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/465084/1916-Standing-Liberty-Quarter-PCGS-G-04[/URL] [*][URL]https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/483640/1916-Standing-Liberty-Quarter-PCGS-G-04[/URL] [*][URL]https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/827691/1916-Standing-Liberty-Quarter-PCGS-G-06[/URL] [/LIST] Examples of 1917 quarters: [LIST] [*][URL]https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/11889/1917-Standing-Liberty-Quarter-Type-1-ANACS-G-06[/URL] [*][URL]https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/162363/1917-Standing-Liberty-Quarter-Type-1-ANACS-G-04[/URL] [*][URL]https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/1021541/1917-Standing-Liberty-Quarter-Type-1-NGC-VG-Details[/URL] [/LIST] These coins reaffirm the diagnostic points outlined on the dateless coins in the OP. Both the OP PCGS coin and the referenced ICG coin exhibit strong shield rivets (which are the most readily apparent of all diagnostics, even with poor pictures) and incuse wall lines, which clinches them as 1917 quarters. Ultimately, if the coin’s diagnostics are saying “1917,” it doesn’t matter if the TPG says it’s “1916,” it’s still a 1917.[/QUOTE]
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