1916 MPL?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by carboni7e, Jan 4, 2014.

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Matte Proof?

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  2. 50% chance

    57.1%
  3. It's not, go home.

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  1. carboni7e

    carboni7e aka MonsterCoinz

    ..confident enough to buy it? ;) I picked it up today in a flea market for $12.
     
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  3. mikem2000

    mikem2000 Lost Cause

    Now why would you want to sell it when it will only cost you less than$50 to submit it ;) Don't be making me suspicious now :)....


    Good luck with your coin......
     
  4. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    The OPs coin is a well-struck BU, NOT a matte proof.

    It is defined and deep, but the rims are not squared enough and the edge is not polished.

    If it were a MPL (which it is not), people would stop trying to sell it raw, and get it slabbed so the buyers will KNOW what they're buying. As long as it's raw, it will only be worth BU money.
     
  5. mikem2000

    mikem2000 Lost Cause

    Mike,

    How do you explain the die markers, they are a perfect match, are you saying it is a buisness with proof dies? Or do you not think the die markers match?
     
  6. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    That looks like a MP to me, but the proof is with the die scratches/die markers. I am not familiar with them. If you have a reliable dealer near you, have him check it out.
     
  7. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    That looks like a MP to me, but the proof is with the die scratches/die markers
    The absolute most detailed and well struck Lincolns are the 1915 - 1919 coins - mostly Philadelphia, but branch mints coins are also very nice. After 1917, Lincoln's beard continually disappeared throughout the wheats.
     
  8. carboni7e

    carboni7e aka MonsterCoinz

    Like the link I posted earlier, some MPL's seem to have little detail and beveled rims. I don't recall seeing a slab designate "struck with proof dies" before. Shame, since they obviously have much more detail. I was joking about selling it ;)

    I'm thinking PR63 or MS64 RB. Not sure the latter is worth paying to slab.
     
  9. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    FWIW, the cheapest 1916 proof I can find for this century was $500 (improperly cleaned) and a 63 BN went for $1,100. If it is proof, I definitely think it would be worth the effort to get it slabbed.
     
  10. McBlzr

    McBlzr Sr Professional Collector

    ;) I would gamble on sending it in to NGC via their economy tier for $17 + postage & ins. The lowest Red Brown graded is a population of 13 at MS-62
     
  11. carboni7e

    carboni7e aka MonsterCoinz

    I agree with this...BUT, there are a lot of people that still don't know what an MPL is.
     
  12. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    Agreed. Many don't know. Many wishful thinkers as well want their coin to be a MPL


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  13. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    I think business strike from retired proof dies


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  14. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    It's a close enough call that I'd let PCGS decide.

    I've seen a lot of biz strikes posted online but this is the most promising one for an MPL. IMO, time to roll the dice with PCGS.
     
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  15. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I dunno, could go either way. The inside of the obv rim is definitely beveled from just above Liberty around the bottom and to just above the date to where that tiny ding in the inside rim is - easily seen in the first pic posted.

    As for the die markers, I can't make 'em out on the OP coin. But it is a nice coin.
     
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