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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;John Burgess, post: 6447576, member: 105098&quot;]I did some digging on the internet. finding</p><p>&quot;For the 1916-D dime, the 4 known die pairs all come slightly rotated.&quot;</p><p><a href="https://www.coinworld.com/news/precious-metals/a-puzzling-counterfeit.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.coinworld.com/news/precious-metals/a-puzzling-counterfeit.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.coinworld.com/news/precious-metals/a-puzzling-counterfeit.html</a></p><p><br /></p><p>this link on here from ksparrow a long time ago about the specific locations of the mint mark, <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/mintmarks-and-die-rotation-1916-d-dime.63817/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/mintmarks-and-die-rotation-1916-d-dime.63817/">https://www.cointalk.com/threads/mintmarks-and-die-rotation-1916-d-dime.63817/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>I think first finding the &quot;rotation&quot; then the die it should be, then comparing the location of the mintmark to that specific die and it&#039;s appearance, may clarify things.</p><p><br /></p><p>ksparrow links this image:&nbsp; <a href="http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t277/cks2007/fakes%20and%20forensics/1916ddime4mmpositions.jpg" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t277/cks2007/fakes%20and%20forensics/1916ddime4mmpositions.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t277/cks2007/fakes and forensics/1916ddime4mmpositions.jpg</a></p><p><br /></p><p>he says:</p><p>mm 1 is upper left picture</p><p>mm 2 is lower left picture</p><p>mm 3 is upper right picture</p><p>mm 4 is lower right picture</p><p>fake is in the center.</p><p><br /></p><p>my note added: #2 and #3 are the RPMs.</p><p><br /></p><p>then states:</p><p>&quot;pretend that the fasces are aligned with the hour hand of a clock.&quot;</p><p>For mm1 the rotation is ccw to 11:45</p><p>for mm2 the rotation is cw to 1:00</p><p>for mm3 the rotation is cw 12:45</p><p>for mm4 the rotation is cw 12:15</p><p>(ccw=counterclockwise,cw=clockwise)</p><p><br /></p><p>it&#039;s said to align the obverse correctly up and down then &quot;coin flip&quot; it to the reverse (fingers at noon and 6) and this will give you the rotation which you determine by the clock positions and then where the center of the Fasces point. on the coin. once you have that you know where the mm should be, and how it should look to that specific die pair, and reverse die.</p><p>can also be done if head side is aligned right in a 2x2.</p><p><br /></p><p>I think it&#039;s an authentic 1916, but there&#039;s some work to do with the coin in hand to determine if it&#039;s authentic. Hopefully this info is helpful&nbsp; to figuring it out.</p><p><br /></p><p>Edit: also, If I had to guess, the pictures in ksparrows post came from possibly the cherry pickers guide but I don&#039;t have one to look at to confirm it,&nbsp; it just has that black and while look I remember to those 4 pics and the coin catalogs had and footnotes under that makes me suspect it might be from CPG. no idea where that image really originates..... something else to hunt down I suppose! work is slowwwwwww. lol[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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