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<p>[QUOTE="satootoko, post: 12207, member: 669"]Well, a little more research has narrowed the field. Krause lists no 4 Ducats in the 17th Century. All 7 described in the 18th Century volume have a 14g official weight and a 34mm diameter. In the early 19th Century the coins continued to be 34mm/14g, but from 1835-1915 eight varieties were minted with the 40mm, 13.9636g specifications you mentioned. Unfortunately, the information you have provided is absolutely, positively, conclusively insufficient to narrow the field any further. The one thing that is clear, however, is that <b><i>no</i></b> 4 Ducats were minted in Austria after the end of World War I, and that Krause makes <b><i>no</i></b> mention of any official 4 Ducat restrikes.</p><p><br /></p><p>Joecoins has certainly put his finger on one strange aspect of your situation - normally when a coin is found to be a counterfeit/replica/forgery/copy, the buyer returns it in exchange for his money back - he doesn't ask for a partial refund while keeping the item.</p><p><br /></p><p>Equally strange is the claim that a coin which should weigh a smidgen less than 14g actually weighs either 227g or 249g, depending on whether the "only 8 ounces" claim is based on avoirdupois or troy weight.</p><p><br /></p><p>If I were in your shoes, I would give my buyer two choices - give me the coin back and I'll refund his money, or "pound salt". It sounds like you had a face-to-face situation, so an exchange shouldn't be any problem.</p><p><br /></p><p>If I got the coin back, I would take steps to find out what it really is, beginning with the posting of a picture and/or a detailed description here.</p><p><br /></p><p>BTW catalog value of the 34mm coins ranges from $225-3,600 depending on date, mint mark and condition. Bullion value of the gold itself is approximately $170 on today's market.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="satootoko, post: 12207, member: 669"]Well, a little more research has narrowed the field. Krause lists no 4 Ducats in the 17th Century. All 7 described in the 18th Century volume have a 14g official weight and a 34mm diameter. In the early 19th Century the coins continued to be 34mm/14g, but from 1835-1915 eight varieties were minted with the 40mm, 13.9636g specifications you mentioned. Unfortunately, the information you have provided is absolutely, positively, conclusively insufficient to narrow the field any further. The one thing that is clear, however, is that [B][I]no[/I][/B] 4 Ducats were minted in Austria after the end of World War I, and that Krause makes [B][I]no[/I][/B] mention of any official 4 Ducat restrikes. Joecoins has certainly put his finger on one strange aspect of your situation - normally when a coin is found to be a counterfeit/replica/forgery/copy, the buyer returns it in exchange for his money back - he doesn't ask for a partial refund while keeping the item. Equally strange is the claim that a coin which should weigh a smidgen less than 14g actually weighs either 227g or 249g, depending on whether the "only 8 ounces" claim is based on avoirdupois or troy weight. If I were in your shoes, I would give my buyer two choices - give me the coin back and I'll refund his money, or "pound salt". It sounds like you had a face-to-face situation, so an exchange shouldn't be any problem. If I got the coin back, I would take steps to find out what it really is, beginning with the posting of a picture and/or a detailed description here. BTW catalog value of the 34mm coins ranges from $225-3,600 depending on date, mint mark and condition. Bullion value of the gold itself is approximately $170 on today's market.[/QUOTE]
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