1914-D Lincoln Cent, seller states its a modified date???

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Bones-65, May 27, 2022.

  1. Bones-65

    Bones-65 Well-Known Member

    Boy this listing is looking to be more & more of a in the future problem!
    Look at the watchers on the listing, I wonder how many people have these phonies that they know is worthless waiting to see if this clown can get near $50.00 out of it just because of how they listed it!
    $50.00 for a phony, hell that's worth more than 95% of Lincoln's in most collections!
    This needs to be fixed! those watchers did to see the link to that listing go directly to the little kid in the orange coat!
    This is madness on a new level.
     
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  3. okbustchaser

    okbustchaser I may be old but I still appreciate a pretty bust Supporter

    No, these don't follow the Hobby Protection Act. The cent in question does. It is an altered coin and no more illegal than a hobo nickel. Would it be illegal to sell as an 1914? No, that would be fraud; still doesn't make it illegal to sell as described.
     
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  4. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

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  5. Bones-65

    Bones-65 Well-Known Member

    There is some understanding outside of illegal that it still violates ebay rules for listings of this type.
     
  6. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    If you were conversing with someone "high up" in e-bay, why is the listing still up?
     
  7. ifthevamzarockin

    ifthevamzarockin Well-Known Member

    I think he was saying he was talking to someone who is up to date on ebay policy and not speaking with someone from ebay.
     
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  8. ifthevamzarockin

    ifthevamzarockin Well-Known Member

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  9. Bones-65

    Bones-65 Well-Known Member

    The comment above is correct!
    I was PM'ing someone I felt would be more in the know of ebay policies than I who has MANY TIMES in the past dealt with these types of issues.
    I never stated it was a higher up within ebay, nor did I mean to imply that.
    If so then I would have came back here and clearly stated what info I had gotten and that it was directly from within ebay, thus we would all know and this would be settled.
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    I'm hoping in this thread that we all can come to an agreement on the best way to handle listing like this, if there is a way at all. I'm keeping my fingers crossed anyway.
     
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  10. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    It is illegal to modify the date or mint mark, regardless of whether you mentioned it or not. Read the 1965 Hobby Act.
    If he made it a 1904, then that would be different, ala Dan Carr.
     
  11. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Modified date? That coin is worth 1 cent after the damage.
     
  12. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Don't need the Hobby Protection Act (which mandates putting the word COPY irreversibly onto the coin) for this one:

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    I would say that offering this as a "1914-D Lincoln cent", regardless of the fine print, constitutes "fraudulently" attempting to sell.

    And legalities aside, as others have pointed out, it's completely against eBay policy.
     
  13. okbustchaser

    okbustchaser I may be old but I still appreciate a pretty bust Supporter

    And in what way is he fraudulently attempting to see it? He openly states that it has been altered.
     
  14. Bones-65

    Bones-65 Well-Known Member

    Update!
    It appears the seller has pulled the listing for the altered 44-D.
    They probably (???) got hammered with messages about it.
    POOF ITS GONE!
     
    Last edited: May 28, 2022
  15. dltsrq

    dltsrq Grumpy Old Man

  16. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

  17. russell1256

    russell1256 Well-Known Member

    I would like one of these for my collection. To show an altered coin, I think the 1944/14 is the most obvious counterfeits.
     
  18. Heavymetal

    Heavymetal Well-Known Member

    I guess my 14D hole will remain empty a while longer. 3C4A4E1E-1F0C-4D33-B260-77DA3E23798B.jpeg
     
  19. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

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  20. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

    The replicas were removed.
     
  21. Brent hobonickel

    Brent hobonickel Well-Known Member

    I carve hobo nickels- I think that this is against the law to make a 44 into a 14. It sounds like a five minute engraving job (if that)- but I would never do it
     
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