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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GDJMSP, post: 1942552, member: 112&quot;]Personally I agree with you, it is confusing. But then the TPGs are not and never have been known for their consistency. Especially in regard to things like this.</p><p><br /></p><p>I mean a clip and lamination both are nothing more than a more severe form of planchet flaws. A planchet law, typically, is a hole/depression in the planchet. In other words the planchet isn&#039;t all there, a tiny piece is missing. With a clip, a piece is missing, sometimes tiny sometimes big. With a lamination, the planchet is coming apart. But they are indisputably all 3 planchet flaws, and more severe.</p><p><br /></p><p>The way I see it is this, the public wants clips and laminations graded, but they don&#039;t care so much about typical planchet flaws. So the TPGs ignore their own rules and grade the clips and laminations. </p><p><br /></p><p>To me it is no different than how they treat wear on coins. They will claim, even though there absolutely no way to prove it, that wear on this coin or that coin was the result of roll friction or whatever, so that coin can still be graded as MS, even though it definitely has wear on it.</p><p><br /></p><p>Same thing with these 3 things. They (the TPGs) claim that this kind of planchet flaw is different from an ordinary/typical planchet flaw, so this coin can be graded while that one cannot.</p><p><br /></p><p>It&#039;s a prefect example of how they change the rules of grading to suit the public and thus give the public what they want. There are many different examples of this changing the rules, involving completely different things. </p><p><br /></p><p>The FS designation for Jeffs is another. A Jeff, by design has 6 steps. But because there are/were so few Jeffs that actually had 6 full steps, the public requested, even demanded, that the TPGs classify coins with only 5 full steps as being FS. So the TPGs went along with them and gave them what they want. </p><p><br /></p><p>To me that&#039;s like saying you have two glasses of water and both are full. But one of the glasses really is full, while the other glass is only 80% full. But we&#039;re gonna say both of them are full anyway just so more people can say they have full glasses of water. The very idea is ridiculous of course, any idiot can look at the two glasses and plainly see that one is not full.But they do it anyway to keep the public happy.</p><p><br /></p><p>You see Richie, the TPGs do this with grading, problem coins, special designations, special slab labels, they basically do it with everything. But because the TPG is the one saying it, the public is willing to accept it because the TPG is saying what the public wants them to say. They want their coins graded higher than they should be. They want their problem coins put in slabs anyway. Their want their coins that are only close to actually meeting the qualifications for those special designations to get those special designations anyway.</p><p><br /></p><p>If you ask me, it&#039;s all a joke. I mean who are they fooling but themselves ?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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