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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;KBBPLL, post: 8633467, member: 104064&quot;]To me there&#039;s really no mystery or conspiracy involving the dies. Philadelphia typically shipped dies for the coming year in early-mid December - numerous dies shipped/received letters in the mint records during the early 1900s attest to this pattern. The controversy surrounding the new design instigated by Hobbs Manufacturing Company (maker of a slug detector) started in July 1912 and continued into mid February 1913. The new design wasn&#039;t officially approved until Dec 18, 1912, and experimental pieces weren&#039;t struck until Jan 7, 1913. After a meeting involving lawyers from both sides on Feb 14, the Hobbs &quot;much ado about nothing&quot; was finally put to rest, and production of the Buffalo nickel began on Feb 18. (Source: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_nickel" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_nickel" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_nickel</a>)</p><p><br /></p><p>With all that going on, 1913 V nickel dies were undoubtedly already manufactured in December 1912. The new design wasn&#039;t even approved until Dec 18! I can picture Barber going, &quot;I&#039;m not waiting around for this, I got coins to produce.&quot; I don&#039;t know all the research around the 1913 V nickel but I can speculate that there may have even been a production run in January 1913 and they were quietly ordered destroyed (given all the hassle with Hobbs). How 5 of them got out is the unknown, not the dies.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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