1913-D Type 1 Buffalo DDR possible discovery?

It's definitely a tough one based on the die state. Thus my coming to you guys. My biggest pickup though is the doubling visible in the hair on the back of the buffalo. And it is eerily similar to the 1913 Type 1.

 

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Just a quick photo from one of mine, look at the "I" in liberty, notice how hey are very close to identical height from the field.



and here for example

 

I like to see it in hand too, I think the motto letter is better then the OP imaged . full shot show motto is better looking then close up make it look ...

I think that why the OP close ups look so flat and not round, in the lettering .

 

@desertgem I know what you mean about the depth of the letters being equal in height. I owned this one for a while.



Here are examples from Wexler's of the 1913 WDDR-003.



Very, very similar to mine.

 

Heres a link I was sent yesterday and it even matches better then Wexler ..
http://varietyvista.com/Buffalo Nickel Files/DDR 1913.htm

 

Did I win the " You Suck Award " ..

 

@Rick Stachowski the photo's over on Varietyvista are almost identical to my example. I'm really starting to get excited here.

 

I also think it could be the product of a working hub .
We know the mintmarks are punched in the die for this year ....

 

Make sure you match some new images of your coin, to Coneca one .

I would love to see them .
What a find this would be .
It would mean that the mints were sharing working hubs ..
How cool would that be ....

 

Very cool somebody had the e-book to help out with too ...

 

Thanks Rick. I posted over at Collectors Universe. I'm going to try to replicate the images from the link and compare them to my Denver example.

 

Keep us posted over here too ...

 

@Rick Stachowski Oh I will Rick. In fact I'm about to post here first.

 

I have the comparisons finished. Here they are in the order they appear over at varietyvista.com. My images are the color ones and the reference images are black and white.

My images: 1913-D Type 1 Buffalo Nickel
Reference images: 1913 Type 1 Buffalo Nickel DDR-002, 2-R-IV+VIII

"ES" of STATES


"OF"



"AM" of AMERICA


"ER" of AMERICA


"E" of E PLURIBUS

 

"PLURIB" of PLURIBUS


"RIBUS" of PLURIBUS


"UN" of UNUM


"UM" of UNUM

 

"FIVE CENTS"


"1913"

 

Obviously the lighting between my images and the reference images are different. I believe the reference images were imaged using a Microscope with nearly axial lighting. I chose to light mine from the 9 o'clock and 12 o'clock positions at the highest angle I could while letting light fall onto the surfaces.

I did not want to introduce distortion from the glass used in axial lighting. There is already enough going on between the late die state and semi-weak strike to see what is going on with the doubling.

 

I think the similarities are uncanny. I would have to say that Rick's assessment of this being the product of a working hub is spot on.

 

I don't think its from a

I know the person that sent the e-book is a buffalo collector and he thinks so too ..

I just wish he wouldn't of sent it in a private message ..

 

I believe your coin is a legit doubled die. The first hubbing (the weaker of the two impressions) is raised and well formed. It is nearly identical to the Philly Mint example in the CONECA files, which could mean it's a working hub doubled variety (the working hub is used to make several working dies-if this is the case there may be an additional "S" Mint coin.) You should sent the coin to James Wiles at CONECA.