1912 Proof V-Nickel

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Weston, Nov 6, 2014.

  1. coindudeonebay

    coindudeonebay SMS Guru

    I have to disagree with your point about coins having to have full frost on all upraised portions. You are loosely quoting the PCGS definition for deep cameo. Fact is, neither of the services hold to this, in fact I've seen many deep cameo coins that were did not have the "unbroken frost" that is supposedly required for deep cameo.
     
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  3. DKenny

    DKenny Member

    This definitely has enough frost to DCAM which I said before
     
  4. brg5658

    brg5658 Well-Known Member

    Based on the photos alone, I think it has a shot at CAM, but no way DCAM.
     
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  5. Weston

    Weston Well-Known Member

    Did some more investigation to see what PCGS will actually call a DCAM after my disappointing results of what they will designate a "Full Step" Jefferson nickel. Both pictures are of the same coin. Is this a DCAM coin going by their standards? $_57-2.JPG 26258093_large.jpg http://www.pcgscoinfacts.com/CoinImages.aspx?s=83910
    Are all these actually CAM coins?
     
  6. coindudeonebay

    coindudeonebay SMS Guru

    Weston, to me the picture of the 91 above does not lead me to believe that it's a dcam. The reason for this is the neck area. The frost is shallow and you can see in the image where they were going for color that the frost thickness is definitely not as thick in that area as it is say on the cheek. You have to keep in mind that the trueview images are shot at the customer request and if they want to show color it pretty much will not show cameo contrast.
     
  7. Weston

    Weston Well-Known Member

    I understand that. The top picture, that is the sellers shows that same weak spot in the neck. That, for me, would disqualify this as a DCAM coin going by PCGS standards. May just be the picture, but thats just my opinion.
     
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  8. Weston

    Weston Well-Known Member

    Is there any way I can send this coin to PCGS telling them that I only want it crack and put into a new holder if it will be designated DCAM? How would their "reconsideration service" work in this case? Without the DCAM designation, I wouldn't want it to be cracked from the OGH Gold CAC holder unless they are, in my opinion, going to do the right thing with it.
     
  9. robec

    robec Junior Member

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  10. Weston

    Weston Well-Known Member

    This has me slightly concerned because to them, an upgrade to them would be a 64, 63CAM or 63+, 64CAM, etc.. Is there a way I can say, if they do not consider the coin DCAM, don't take it out of the holder?
     
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  11. robec

    robec Junior Member

    You can choose grade And designation for your minimum. Example, you can put 64Cam as your minimum or 64DCam. If you choose 64DCam and it doesn't meet their criteria it won't be cracked.
     
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  12. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    Beautiful coin and if the images accurately depict the coin, I would agree with the DCAM designation. I have a few proof liberty nickels that have the designation, but not the frost that this coin shows. But I'm not sure it's with loosing the bean to try.
     
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  13. Weston

    Weston Well-Known Member

    Interesting. They make it easier than I thought they were going to. Thanks!
     
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  14. Weston

    Weston Well-Known Member

    My exact thoughts. Losing the bean and OGH. I would send it to reconsideration so I would ensure I wouldn't lose them.
     
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  15. Seba79

    Seba79 Well-Known Member

    A beautiful coin !
     
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  16. JPeace$

    JPeace$ Coinaholic

    If you're not in a hurry, maybe take the coin to a big show where one of the big two are present. Ask for an onsite evaluation. Very nice looking coin!

    Or you might call CAC and see if they remember the coin and can give you an opinion on CAM vs. DCAM vs. No CAM. It's worth a shot.
     
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  17. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    And vice-versa. when I was photographing 80 Kennedy proofs, mostly all dcam, it was amazing how slight changes in coin angle / light angle and position changed the cameo look from non-existent, to inky blacks.
     
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  18. Endeavor

    Endeavor Well-Known Member

    That is a magnificent coin. Congratulations!
     
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  19. Weston

    Weston Well-Known Member

    Got it in hand, so here's some new pictures for though... image.jpg image.jpg image.jpg
     
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  20. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    great coin. I would keep the OGH and gold CAC, but that is just me. (I like that combo). Acts like a nice "frame" for your beautiful coin.
     
  21. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    I'd call it DCam , as it's a beauty . I'd also keep it in the same slab as I have a feeling those light blue and white labeled coins are going to be questioned as to the accuracy of their grading . JMHO .
     
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