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<p>[QUOTE="RonSanderson, post: 2639780, member: 77413"]Bob, I don't have their books, but I know some of you do, and that is why I asked for help, opinions and diagnostics.</p><p><br /></p><p>In lieu of having the records at hand (I went to the Mint site and the US Archives sites and they aren't online) I did find a lengthy series of posts discussing the production counts and other interesting info. Kevin Flynn was involved in much of this discussion. At <a href="https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/comment/11594804/#Comment_11594804" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/comment/11594804/#Comment_11594804" rel="nofollow">this post</a>, I saw "<i>So knowing that the individual dies used on all the proofs from the number of known observed dies, individual dies did not seem to be pushed past about 1,000 pressings.</i>" This thread also says three dies were used in 1916 to produce just 600 coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>That, combined with the discovery of a second die pair for 1909 proofs a few years ago (<a href="http://www.pcgs.com/News/1909-Matte-Proof-New-Coin-Die-Discovered" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.pcgs.com/News/1909-Matte-Proof-New-Coin-Die-Discovered" rel="nofollow">1909 Matte Proof – New Coin Die Discovered</a>), makes me think it is reasonable to ask if there are two die pairs or just one.</p><p><br /></p><p>But I can only pursue this a little way before I need the help of others.</p><p>This is why we ask for it.</p><p><br /></p><p>I will try to take as many pictures as people are willing to look at. But we are watching Groundhog Day tonight, again, so some responses may have to wait until tomorrow.</p><p><br /></p><p>My research shows there should be a die scratch that runs through BER, but I think it is higher than the little line shown here, and should extend from E to R. But I don't see it on all of the Heritage 1912 proofs, either.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]582185[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>I need a better rim photo. And I need to capture the inside curvature, as requested. I will work on that.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]582187[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="RonSanderson, post: 2639780, member: 77413"]Bob, I don't have their books, but I know some of you do, and that is why I asked for help, opinions and diagnostics. In lieu of having the records at hand (I went to the Mint site and the US Archives sites and they aren't online) I did find a lengthy series of posts discussing the production counts and other interesting info. Kevin Flynn was involved in much of this discussion. At [URL='https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/comment/11594804/#Comment_11594804']this post[/URL], I saw "[I]So knowing that the individual dies used on all the proofs from the number of known observed dies, individual dies did not seem to be pushed past about 1,000 pressings.[/I]" This thread also says three dies were used in 1916 to produce just 600 coins. That, combined with the discovery of a second die pair for 1909 proofs a few years ago ([URL='http://www.pcgs.com/News/1909-Matte-Proof-New-Coin-Die-Discovered']1909 Matte Proof – New Coin Die Discovered[/URL]), makes me think it is reasonable to ask if there are two die pairs or just one. But I can only pursue this a little way before I need the help of others. This is why we ask for it. I will try to take as many pictures as people are willing to look at. But we are watching Groundhog Day tonight, again, so some responses may have to wait until tomorrow. My research shows there should be a die scratch that runs through BER, but I think it is higher than the little line shown here, and should extend from E to R. But I don't see it on all of the Heritage 1912 proofs, either. [ATTACH=full]582185[/ATTACH] I need a better rim photo. And I need to capture the inside curvature, as requested. I will work on that. [ATTACH=full]582187[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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