1911 D $2.50 Diagnostics?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Weston, Jan 1, 2015.

  1. Weston

    Weston Well-Known Member

    Are there any tell tale diagnostics to determine if I have a weak D $2.50? I know PCGS published this: http://www.pcgs.com/News/The-1911-d-2-12-Gold-Piece However, they state their are two die pairs and only give the diagnostics for one. Even though it is highly unlikely that I have that this time. I wouldn't want to turn away a genuine one because of the lack of first die pair diagnostics. I do not yet have this coin in hand but what do ya'll think? $_57-6.JPG $_57-5.JPG Screen Shot 2015-01-01 at 8.54.04 PM.png
     
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  3. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    I see none of the diagnostics I know
     
  4. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    This is not a 1911-D Quarter Eagle.

    Moreover, it is not correct that more than one die pair exists for 1911-D Quarter eagles. Both the strong D and Weak D coins were issued from the same pair of dies.
     
  5. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    Both my 11-D coins have the raised edge... BUT one it on the top, one on the right side
     
  6. mouse

    mouse Active Member

    That is just a regular 1911p quarter eagle. It still however is a nice coin.
     
  7. Weston

    Weston Well-Known Member

    Dang. Does anyone see what I'm looking at in the last picture? I may just be seeing what I want to see...;)
     
  8. mouse

    mouse Active Member

    I'm sorry but I just don't think that is a weak d. It is a 1911p and a quite nice one as I said above.
     
  9. swamp yankee

    swamp yankee Well-Known Member

    I see none there at all.....
     
  10. Weston

    Weston Well-Known Member

    What are the diagnostics you know? I have heard of 2: Wire rim between 11 and 3 o'clock(Only shown on 80% of genuine pieces) and the die polish line at the tip of the arrows(shown on all genuine pieces). Are there more?
     

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  11. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    Those are mainly the ones I know about, even though I have NEVER been able to see the die polish line. Both my 1911-D coins (both pcgs) have the raised edge in slightly different parts of the coin though, so even that is not 100% accurate.
     
  12. Weston

    Weston Well-Known Member

    When you first saw the coin, other than the wire rim being from 3 o'clock to 9 o'clock as apposed to 11-3 o'clock, what made you think this is not a weak D?
     
  13. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    I honestly don't even see enough of a wire from 3-9. There are a FEW small things I look for, but I really don't like to give them away. I have never found an 11-D without the rim though
     
  14. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    @jwitten . . . see my latest Weak D at https://www.cointalk.com/threads/lets-see-your-newest-acquisitions.158772/page-1185#post-3364059 . . . that coin has a barely discernable wire rim between 3:00 & 5:00, absolutely no trace of the mintmark at all, and even the die polish is very difficult to pick out. As for the other diagnostics you'd like to keep to yourself, I'll not mention them here. It was they which helped me pick the coin out of the crowd.
     
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  15. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    Nice! Where did you find it?
     
  16. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    eBay . . . it was pretty difficult to be sure based on the photos, and it was not returnable.
     
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