1910 Mexico Peso Caballito - Cleaned or Contact Marks?

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  1. iPen

    iPen Well-Known Member

    Does anyone think that this 1910 Mexico Peso Caballito coin is cleaned? Or, are those marks on the coin simply contact marks?

    The contact marks are more or less random, and doesn't appear to move in a path from what I can tell. I also see cartwheel luster on both the obverse and reverse of the coin, which is hard to capture with the camera but it's a full cartwheel though not as bright as a fresh from the mint one obviously. So, I know that at least it wasn't "harshly" cleaned.

    Asked another way, have you all seen coins graded (not details graded) by NGC/PCGS with the characteristic marks shown in the pics below, while having cartwheel luster on both sides?

    Thanks in advance!

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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    I just want to know why you call it a Caballito? That's a full grown horse and in spanish we say Caballo.. A caballito would be a smaller horse. Like a pony.
     
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  4. Insider

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    Cleaning does not leave dimpled marks on coins UNLESS it is sand blasted. The marks on your coin resemble those found on a coin that has been dropped and then run over or stepped on as it lay on the ground.

    Let's call it "mishandled."
     
  5. iPen

    iPen Well-Known Member

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  6. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    In most cases, NGC just copied the info in Krause. That's the way it is listed. Also the weights in many of the NGC posting are incorrect for the same reason! :facepalm:

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  7. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    Good question, makes me curious. More trivia: Did you know if you count the sun's rays at the bottom there are 13, but at the top there are 14?
     
  8. iPen

    iPen Well-Known Member

    Interesting, I see what you mean - the ray at the cape.

    Maybe the engraver forgot about that ray, since the cape doesn't have an outline where the cape ends and the ray shows.
     
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  9. xlrcable

    xlrcable Active Member

    The diminutive can connote affection, as well as small size. Another example of the same usage, for a statue that dates from before independence:

    https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Caballito_(estatua)
     
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  10. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    True.. you may be on to something here.. the Caballito Statue in located in Mexico. Maybe this coin is in reference to it :wideyed:

    edit - Or maybe not.. there is a difference in the 2 statues.. affection is understandable.
     
  11. Hispanicus

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    Xlrcable beat me to it.
     
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