1909 VDB

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by Pickin and Grinin, Mar 13, 2016.

  1. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I picked this up about a month ago.
    At a good price I thought.
    What would you grade this example at? 1909 vdb obv.jpg 1909 vdb rev.jpg Thanks for looking.
    The die crack (rev) is what made me pull the trigger
     
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  3. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    64. I can't read your luster. If it is really booming, it might make 65.
     
  4. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Tough to tell what the luster and color is really like. Wild guess MS64.
     
  5. kaosleeroy108

    kaosleeroy108 The Mahayana Tea Shop & hobby center

    ms 64+rb - ms65 bn
     
  6. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Lustre,
    It is there. If it had more Reds?
     
  7. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    You can see all the luster left on the coin clearly, at the edges and close to letters - it's circulated and the luster has been worn away. The wheat stalks are already wearing together. 1909 is the first year and using brand-new Master Dies; I don't expect any real strike weakness and it shows no worn-die artifacts. I have it at AU50-53BN.
     
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  8. Omegaraptor

    Omegaraptor Gobrecht/Longacre Enthusiast

    If it is circulated, then AU55/58BN.

    If there is no wear, easy 64BN.
     
  9. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I wouldn't doubt it has been touched bye a finger or two.
    Under magnification it dose have metal flow on the devises.
    although There is a few dust bunnies that have settled on the surfaces.
    Au wouldn't hurt my feelings.
     
  10. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Finger prints don't stop it from MS.
     
  11. kaosleeroy108

    kaosleeroy108 The Mahayana Tea Shop & hobby center

    The dir cracks a sweet addition you should have it graded
     
  12. brandon spiegel

    brandon spiegel Brandon Spiegel

  13. brandon spiegel

    brandon spiegel Brandon Spiegel

    or mint state, i am not good at telling the difference
     
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  14. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Thanks. I noticed another obv shoulder to rim
     
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    dwhiz Collector Supporter

  16. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    No, but obvious circulation wear does. :)
     
  17. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I now see the wheat stalks as you said. Could that be a later die state?
     
  18. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    It's conceivable, but I expect the very_first_coins produced of a brand-new design from fresh masters (the VDB's were the very first struck) to be pretty good strikes. It's tough to find a poorly-struck VDB. And Lincoln dies tend to show wear characteristically with rim sink before details are that worn. The small letters at the top of both obverse and reverse are sharp and straight, your images are very good and show luster in the last areas luster wears away from, and the most likely explanation - by a very wide margin over any of the others - is circulation wear.
     
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  19. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Don't think so, but it definitely could be a pixelated photo and/or a slightly out of focus picture. I see no wear on that coin when I interpolate the picture.
     
  20. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the responses everybody.
    When i was looking the coin over the W jumped out . The IGWT has some doubling. 1909 vdb IGWT.jpg Thats the best my phone can do with a close up.
    mostly on ( god w)
     
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