1909 vdb... Matte Proof?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Cascade, Nov 9, 2016.

  1. deefree

    deefree Active Member

    That is the strange thing...I see "+ Quote and Reply" but there is no "Like" on my view of the posts! I wonder if there is something I need to change in options or something like that (?)
     
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  3. robec

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    It should look like this.

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  4. deefree

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  5. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    ...or like this if you're on a mobile using Tapatalk:

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  6. deefree

    deefree Active Member

    Thanks coin friends for trying to help with my "affliction"

    I've been messing around with my profile and other options but the "like" button still isn't there. I'll probably have to ask a moderator for help...

    In the meantime, we at least know what's up with this VDB. PCGS #82482206 PR66RB!
    It is a real one and this is the first case I've ever seen anywhere where a find by someone actually ended up as real.

    The only stuff we still don't know is the backstory.
     
  7. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    The OP still hasn't posted
     
  8. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    The OP doesn't get to decide. It's not his coin.

    Trust me, I've been beating him about the head for weeks - I've known all along what happened with this coin - to reveal what came of it. I have deliberately frayed what was becoming a strong friendship (we worked through that) by hammering on him about the secrecy. It's not his decision.

    I made a promise, and therefore until he speaks out himself I can make no comment regarding any speculation posted here. Aside the fact that I have been, and remain, in complete disagreement regarding how this has played out. But it's reached the point where I'm not willing to sit by and watch while my friend gets dragged through mud for something not in his control.
     
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  9. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    I have no idea about the controversy... I was just stating to the thread that although two posters seem to have identified the coin on a website, that the op hasn't posted the conclusion or (the long promised) reveal
     
  10. deefree

    deefree Active Member

    I don't want to see anyone dragged through the mud. I think what happened is that expectations were raised and understandably people who had their interest raised didn't want to be left hanging.

    It is hard to understand the secrecy in this. That is what inspires the theories, skepticism and even the anger. The OP set the table on all this so he did create the situation. I think people have a reasonable right to expect something when someone inspires their curiosity, especially on a hot topic such as this. I think that is fair to say.

    I guess you're not going to verify this coin as being the PR66RB found in CoinFacts but I'm pretty convinced that is the proper ID. So with that probably solved, the remaining mystery is the origin story of the coin. I've got a feeling we're not going to hear that part any time soon if ever.

    Personally I have a gut feeling about it that could very well be completely wrong but I'm going to throw it out there anyway since for now we don't have anything else. My feeling is that the owner already knew it was a genuine VDB proof before it was in the new PR66RB holder. Maybe it was in a holder before and got cracked out or maybe it was part of an old collection. At this point we don't know. I just have this feeling that its authenticity was already determined when this thread began. That would at least give one possible explanation for the secrecy.

    In the end it is no big deal. It was an interesting story either way. Maybe at some point we will know the actual story. Until then, I'll just say; "Very nice coin, valuable and attractive. A coin that is great to be the owner of and an important piece of numismatic history to be able to hold in your hand and appreciate."
     
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  11. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    If we could cut out everything you posted in this thread and over at CU, the truth would be left. Some really cool people called this coin real. Looks like they knew what they were talking about.
     
  12. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    You have the screen that Doug uses. :D
     
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  13. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    What a difference an image can make.
    20161109_190029~2.jpg 82482206_56721128_2200.jpg
     
  14. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Pcgs must have a magic eraser for taking away hits .
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  16. deefree

    deefree Active Member

    I see nothing in that article that indicates I spread any false information. I see nothing in that article that indicates that I haven't found the exact coin.

    In fact, it verifies what I said! PR66RB. I did the research. You're welcome.
     
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  17. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Sure it is. There several markers that show it. It's the same coin.
     
  18. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Ya, but it's not the OP coin ? Wonder why they don't say in the article, the coin at the Long Beach show ?
     
  19. deefree

    deefree Active Member

    I do wish to amend something I speculated on. I wanted to know how this coin was found and I threw out a theory that the OP knew it was a matte proof before having it verified. I retract that as the article verifies his original hints about how the coin was found.

    To him and the owner, I say congratulations! I also reiterate something I said in that same post; i.e.;
    "Very nice coin, valuable and attractive. A coin that is great to be the owner of and an important piece of numismatic history to be able to hold in your hand and appreciate."

    Thanks to Rick Stachowski for finding the article. (Thanks, I think) Too bad he can't be more of a colleague. Or perhaps stop saying these negative things that don't make sense.

    I'm actually kind of proud of my research for figuring out where the coin might be, finding it and identifying it. Why attack me? You're just strange, man.
     
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  20. Blissskr

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  21. deefree

    deefree Active Member

    Just because they don't mention the coin resting comfortably in CoinFacts proves nothing, man. You know the chances of it being a 66RB alone strongly verify my thesis. Now use your eyes and you'll see the identifying marks. No, it isn't super easy but if you look close, you'll find them.
     
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