1909 VDB issues in dies or doubling? both sides

YES!!!
I am hoping that the grade will help increase deire from a good collector


Will anyone grade a coin like this?

 

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Mr Diamond,
It appears to me to be a really good grade of coin.
Do 3rd party grading services put a grade on a coin such as this?

 

I wouldn't see why not. It would have to go through error service though. Even if it gets a details grade it will still get the error classification. Ngc is cheaper for errors than pcgs. Although if it were mine I'd like it in a pcgs slab BUT ngc is like less than half the price to submit error coins and it doesn't need to be sent on a seperate form. With ngc you can submit other non error coins with it and just check the error box for that coin and pay I think $10 more for it

 

Thanks, yeah seems pcgs carries higher value for the grade of coin.

I suppose I'll have to think it over... Now if you fine gentlemen want to make offers, the right price might make me sell.

My wife thinks I'm a nut job about my coins

 

Please be advised that the major grading services are sometimes unable (or uninterested) in distinguishing between machine doubling and close double strikes. So you may not get the diagnosis you're looking for.

 

Thats some of the impression I have gleaned from reading their websites.

Would this coin and I be better served to place better pictures and guesstimate of grade and sell as loose coin?

 

Let's not add any more possibilities. As I said in the first place, ejection doubled/machine doubled - whatever you guys want to call it) should be extremely rare with this much spread. When the design it flat and struck into the coin as appears in parts of this coin, it usually indicates a double struck coin (see Post#39 when I finally saw the light). The fact that it is on top of the original means it happened while the coin was still in the collar. An as many have pointed out, both "errors" can occur to the same coin.

 

I don't know which strategy would generate the greatest profit.

 

Mike, I'm going to disagree with some of your statement. I'll agree that in some cases or many cases if you prefer, the major grading services can't reach a conclusion on some coins - errors or authenticity. I will partially agree that at least one of them may not care. However, IMO, all of them will be happy to take the OP's money and slab his coin for what it is if possible. I for one wish it belonged to me!

 

Personally I would send it to ngc with some other coins and take the gamble. The base cost not including shipping etc for 1 error coin with ngc should be around $25

 

Send your coin to ICG. Fazzari works there as an authenticator. He worked for NGC in the past and it is my understanding that those two services share info about errors and new fakes on occasion so you may get TWO opinions for the price of one.

Or, send the coin directly to NGC (more $$$$). They have a good error specialist on staff. Or send it to PCGS (more $$$) they have nationally known error consultants as does NGC if needed.

Or send it to ANACS. An interesting coin like this will get great treatment whatever you choose.

Now, the coin will bring more money in a slab. You do not need anymore photos as IMO there is enough to tell what it is now. Why not post photos on PCGS and NGC forums and ask the same questions you did here?

Finally, you can send the coin directly to a major error dealer for a cash offer. Then you'll find out if it is worth anything. Problem with this approach is you will be getting a wholesale offer. Best of luck!

 

This one seems to have everyone's head spinning..
I suppose being patient and weighing information ,maybe getting more input from as many expects like yourself?

Any collectors anyone knows of that may be interested in a look?
I do enjoy having my coins, unless it brings a dollar amount I can't refuse I won't sell it for some time to come. So I should have time to do this coin some justice by being patient and.

Any thoughts on how to describe the coin properly and in a fashion gentlemen like yourselves would read and immediately say
" yes it is and a really nice example"

 

Thanks,great information Insider.
I'll just have to wigh the options and figure out what I want out of it in the end.

 

So what's the thought on matte or not?
Or is this where the better pictures comes into play?

 

I missed something. How did this come up? Did someone say it was a matte Proof?

Let the TPGS's decide. There are plenty of published diagnostics for those coins.

 

No, just the rim being so flat and square along with the couple pictures I believe I see a piece of a crescent( better pictures needed I'm sure)

 

Well I'll be, I went out on a limb and it didn't break this time. A big congrats to you !

 

The rims can just be from a strong strike. A buddy of mine has an 09p that looks so much like a matte proof in terms of both surface texture and large flat rims that it gave rick snow a double take but the markers weren't there

 

I have another like that also but no markers.. Figure it was strike with fresh dies.
Kind of a let down, but still a very nice coin

 

Here is a picture using phone of Rev. and Obv.