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Message:: [QUOTE="BadThad, post: 687285, member: 17261"]Jack knows better than I, but I'm not sure. It looks like a die 4 to me. Nonetheless, when I see a rare coin like this in this condition I always wonder why it's not slabbed. If you're going to sell a $2000+ coin, why wouldn't you slab it first to eliminate all question? For me, that's a HUGE red flag. Also, the head doesn't look right to me, it's not fully struck at the side of forehead, above the ear, cheek and jaw. These are normally well stuck from dies that were in a good state. Something doesn't look right with the rims either. The obverse motto looks like it's slanting downward. Also, when selling a coin like this raw.....why wouldn't you include close-up shots of the mint mark and die markers? And....the final strike... There's no way in hell I'd personally buy a coin like this without seeing in hand first unless it was a very reputable dealer with a solid return policy. If I'm buying something this sweet for my collection that's big bucks, I just HAVE to see it in hand. For me, it's all about the in-hand eye appeal! If it is a fake, I agree with Jack that's it's die struck. Not sure how they pulled that off because the reverse is correct. I can't find a fault with the reverse from the pictures.[/QUOTE]