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Message:: [QUOTE="PlanoSteve, post: 24689997, member: 91609"]You're pics are great!  Now, I normally do not attempt to grade anything by pic alone - I only like to express an opinion when I have the coin in hand. I assume this is your coin, and if so, I am wondering the source (how you acquired it). I feel compelled to offer my opinion, (& remember, it's just my opinion based on your pics) with the following caveats:      1)  I own several of these, graded (I know, I know, "why do you need more                than one?"; but I'm not going to go there now.).     2)  I am not an expert on these.     3)  Also, I'm not an expert on these, and furthermore,     4)  I...oh, I already said that! So, as nice as this coin appears on my computer screen, I don't believe it is an MS coin, and I believe it has been cleaned.  The rubs on Abe's hair & the back collar & shoulder of his coat looks suspicious to me.   And the encrustations in "LIBERTY", the "S" in TRUST, and the wheat ears give me pause, not to mention the "V.D.B.", which looks "off" to me (I did not take the time to compare it to known varieties).  And just the overall appearance does not have that "uncleaned" look...to me. So, for me, it comes back to the source of this coin.  I would not have bought such a coin ungraded. JMHO <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]