1909-S VDB Grade?

how is it possible that all nice date/rare coins are all holdered??many collectors only buy raw coins..i am sure there are thousands of coins still out there in the raw...just because it is rare, does not have to mean counterfeit if not slabbed...

 

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Correct. However, it does beg the question as to why it isn't holdered yet and therefore certainly requires extra due diligence and an abundance of scrutiny since this coin is one of the most counterfeited coins on the market.

 

funny that you should bring up that subject when I as of NOW have a 1909S V.D.B. in the hands of PCGS even now as we speak. My cent isn't the best grade in the world but is soon to be slabbed once graded. So John65999 is correct. Never know what is in "Grannys" penny jar she had hidden in the attic for many years after she passed away.

 

You coin will likely get a details grade due to the gouges on the obverse.

 

I just wanted slabbed to prove it's a real 09'S V.D.B. and not a china knockoff

 

Did you ever wonder how many people let this $300-$400 lowly penny slip through their fingers???

 

If "details" there will be no grade noted/provided...just maybe "details" followed by "damage" or "gouged," etc., depending on the TPG. A "details grade" is a misnomer...there is no grade...save for possibly a category in which it would have graded, of VF, F, AU, etc., again, depending on the TPG. But indeed, grade or details, you will have it in a slab as verified genuine, et al.

 

Not all collectors are into slabbed coins, me included.
Just always preferred 'raw'.

 

to be honest I am not a GREAT fan of Slabs but might get a better price if slabbed in this case.

 

I noticed a huge difference from PCGS prices for these and ANACS, confirming what all say, for some stupid reason, people pay more for PCGS, even though ANACS is the oldest grader of the current group.

 

OMG, almost $3k winning bid? And the surface has that concrete or porus look, like it was cast, which is always a give-away on fakes, and i HATE people who make these fake rolls and fool the ignorant.

 

I don’t think it’s a fake. I think it’s authentic. The problem is this seller is know to sell problem coins with beautifully juiced photos to make them look premium quality.

 

I looked at a collection the other day that had a 1909 S VDB in a very old penny book. I told the person it could possibly be authentic and referred them to a LCS. The collection was a three generation and no other obvious forgeries that most collections seem to have. Still waiting to hear back. If genuine good for you!

 

Of course in about three months it will return slabbed and I will post it so y'all can see it slabbed.

 

I don't see anyone saying an unslabbed 1909-S VDB is sure to be fake and cannot be found in the raw. On the contrary, what is being said is that this particular coin is a target for counterfeiters. It is one of the most counterfeited coins on the market.

With that being said, it is wise to scour with extreme prejudice and untold scrutiny any raw '09-S VDB to ascertain it shows all markers of an authentic coin before making the purchase. The fact that you sent in your specimen for authentication and slabbing supports the claim that unslabbed specimens should be approached with undue caution.

Hopefully your coin is returned in a 'genuine' and graded holder. That'll be one more authenticated, slabbed '09-S VDB future buyers will have less apprehension to purchase. Good luck on the slabbing.

 

Hopefully this is not a stock photo. Although it seems to be legit, one has to wonder why it is not slabbed, unless it was slabbed with a details grade and then removed. Based on the photo, it looks like it could be MS63 or MS64 and there seems to be enough red to classify it so. I agree with others, so many fakes out there this is one coin that a buyer must be wary of since it is not slabbed.

 

If genuine, I'm thinking MS 63-64 borderline Rd, on a good day, with the right grader.

 

this 1909 S VDB (not mine) raw just now sold for $613.00 (45 bids).

 

Even if you gave it away your not losing much if you got it from Grandma

 

Sell it