1909 S vdb cent

This is my 1909-S vdb cent I posted this when I first joined but my coin pictures are much better than they used to be. Im going to send it in to NGC for grading this week. What do you think they will do with it?






Anything I can do about that little black spot on the reverse?

 

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It is hard to tell if it is something stuck to the coin or discoloring from the photo. If its just something on the coin, try a q-trip to dislodge it. If not, its a carbon spot and will come off easy.

 

I think it might be some black gunk but I dont want to start messing with it

 

I think it's a no grade and goes into a details holder. There seems to be some damage behind the head in the field... and the lines on the coin... hard to tell if they are hairlines or die lines

 

unc. details cleaned and scratched.

 

Heres the spot

 

The first time I saw the picture which was about three seconds ago, I thought, "Who took a green scrubbie or piece of steel wool to this coin?" Am I right about that?

 

NCS improperly cleaned questionable color I would say b4 it says damaged on the label. That's my guess and I'm a sticking to it

 

My guess exactly.

 

It is covered in hairlines because someone harshly cleaned it. You won't get that in a problem-free holder.

 

The dot after the V in VDB looks a little suspicious to me. Isn't it one way to identify a fake?

 

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Harshly Cleaned.

 

I am somewhat in the "cleaned and scratched" boat... as long as the OP doesn't come in and tell us it has an improperly mixed planchet giving it that appearance.

 

I agree with everyone else and if I were in your shoes I would save my money. The odd placement of the dot after the V is normal for alot of the 09 S VDB's. But, if you ever want to sell it at least it will have been authenticated...

 

I'd worry because, as many pointed out, it appears to have been harshly cleaned. But I would still send it away for authentication at least.

Cleaned or not, little black spud or not, I think it's a beautiful coin.

 

I gotta agree with the above statement!!

Maybe you should send your 1909 to ICG or one of the lesser than PCGS or NGC. I don't know much about grading tho, I mean as far as which ones will actually place details with a grade, but there must be one of the lesser known ones you can send it to.

 

I think it is a really nice coin..Let me know the results of the slabing.

 

Based on the photos the coin appears to have been harshly cleaned. It's a shame because it looks to have unc details.

 

I don't know and I hate to sound like all we do is trash somebody's coins, but this coin has too many hairlines for me. They seem to run in rows and my first impression is cleaned, but given the date, it could also be the planchet or die polish lines. An in-hand examination is necessary, IMHO.

The lines that I speak of are on the obverse in the field in front of Lincoln. Now, if these were planchet lines, they would be consistent in direction. These lines intersect. That means that they cannot be flow lines from striking and that they are not consistent with planchet issues. So that leaves me with cleaning or die polish lines. I will lean towards die polish and wish you good luck!

I am interested to see what the TPG says, but I am with Matt, that gouge by Lincoln's head may be trouble so far as the certification as problem-free.

That said, I would be extremely happy to own it. It is right in my wheelhouse as far as coins go, and to date I have never owned a 1909-S VDB. So, if you decide that you just can't stand to keep it, then just send it over here, it will receive plenty of love, I promise.

 

I agree with the above, that it looks like it might have little marks, and a black spot, it looks like a nice coin.