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<p>[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2656009, member: 24314"]I'm not being critical just very confused. Can you keep this simple? What is going on in Post#88? Previously, I thought you took images of the four known mint mark positions for "S-VDB's" and found a coin that did not match exactly. </p><p><br /></p><p>Now, it looks like you have found several "S-VDB's" that don't match! See if this is correct. You have made a template from the four genuine images in the ANA guide. Then you found images online of several other coins. These don't match. Am I correct so far? </p><p><br /></p><p>In my opinion, you are proving something long-time professional authenticators/teachers always suspected. Since mintmarks were applied by hand and often die records show that more dies went to the branch mint than examples of each different possible position, the deviation must be so tiny on several dies that the human eye aided by the scale in a microscope reticle could not determine a difference. Therefore, as computers, imaging, and measuring methods got better (in this case what you have posted) numismatists may be able to prove there are actually six positions for these coins. </p><p><br /></p><p>Two final thoughts:</p><p><br /></p><p>1. Once you publish your information, interested parties (probably with equipment and actual BU coins above your pay level <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie87" alt=":sorry:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />- PCGS/NGC/ANA) will either prove or disprove what you have found. As I posted above, there are several ways to introduce errors into your method, hand drawing and actual coins being two. </p><p><br /></p><p>2. Additionally, no matter how many differences there actually are, in our lifetime, the standard for TPGS authentication will be four different positions. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Keep up the good work and get it published! IMO, It is ready enough right know to stir debate, further research, and get you the credit whether you want it or not. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2656009, member: 24314"]I'm not being critical just very confused. Can you keep this simple? What is going on in Post#88? Previously, I thought you took images of the four known mint mark positions for "S-VDB's" and found a coin that did not match exactly. Now, it looks like you have found several "S-VDB's" that don't match! See if this is correct. You have made a template from the four genuine images in the ANA guide. Then you found images online of several other coins. These don't match. Am I correct so far? In my opinion, you are proving something long-time professional authenticators/teachers always suspected. Since mintmarks were applied by hand and often die records show that more dies went to the branch mint than examples of each different possible position, the deviation must be so tiny on several dies that the human eye aided by the scale in a microscope reticle could not determine a difference. Therefore, as computers, imaging, and measuring methods got better (in this case what you have posted) numismatists may be able to prove there are actually six positions for these coins. Two final thoughts: 1. Once you publish your information, interested parties (probably with equipment and actual BU coins above your pay level :sorry:- PCGS/NGC/ANA) will either prove or disprove what you have found. As I posted above, there are several ways to introduce errors into your method, hand drawing and actual coins being two. 2. Additionally, no matter how many differences there actually are, in our lifetime, the standard for TPGS authentication will be four different positions. :) Keep up the good work and get it published! IMO, It is ready enough right know to stir debate, further research, and get you the credit whether you want it or not. :D[/QUOTE]
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