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<p>[QUOTE="The Penny Lady®, post: 866236, member: 16948"]My understanding is that my piece was the first to be "authenticated" so I am guessing that's why they are calling it the "discovery" coin, though Kevin doesn't really like to use the word "discovery" because I believe there are most likely other specimens that have been discussed or known, but just haven't been officially "authenticated" by experts. </p><p> </p><p>If the guy who bought the coin from the auction had sent it to Kevin Flynn as he was advised to do and it was determined that his had the "newly dsicovered" die markers, there is a good chance that his might have been called the "discovery" piece, but he didn't do that nor did he pursue any other means of getting his coin authenticated.</p><p> </p><p>More importantly and something that was not brought out in the other discussions on this, <b>had Brian not seen my coin and brought Kevin in to evaluate it, it is my belief that the other guy would still NOT have taken steps to get his coin examined by experts and the discovery of this different die would still have gone unpublished</b>.</p><p> </p><p>Bottom line on this whole issue really is that it is very interesting that we are just now learning of a new die for a 1909 coin and it is thanks to people like Kevin and Brian who care enough to delve into the nitty gritty technical and time consuming research, including comparisons of minute die markers to known dies. </p><p> </p><p>Personally, I never sought to have my name attached to something like this, I was just curious about my coin since it was raw and looked like a proof but was a little different than the other known 1909 proofs. Also, I personally felt and suggested that Brian should be named as the "discoverer" of this die as he was the one who really identified it as being different, but it was he and Kevin who felt that since I allowed my coin to be photographed and authenticated first, my name should be attached to it.</p><p> </p><p>My feeling is that it really shouldn't matter whatsoever who "discovers" things like this in the coin world, it's more important to focus on the fact that someone took the time to compare, do the research to actually prove or disprove that it is a NEW die variety, however significant or insignificant that might end up being. It is people like Kevin and Brian who care enough to take their own time, in spite of their personal business and family, to contribute so heavily to our understanding by sharing and actually publishing their knowledge and research for the rest of us so we can all learn, understand and more thoroughly enjoy coins. And, sincerely, isn't that what loving coins is all about![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="The Penny Lady®, post: 866236, member: 16948"]My understanding is that my piece was the first to be "authenticated" so I am guessing that's why they are calling it the "discovery" coin, though Kevin doesn't really like to use the word "discovery" because I believe there are most likely other specimens that have been discussed or known, but just haven't been officially "authenticated" by experts. If the guy who bought the coin from the auction had sent it to Kevin Flynn as he was advised to do and it was determined that his had the "newly dsicovered" die markers, there is a good chance that his might have been called the "discovery" piece, but he didn't do that nor did he pursue any other means of getting his coin authenticated. More importantly and something that was not brought out in the other discussions on this, [B]had Brian not seen my coin and brought Kevin in to evaluate it, it is my belief that the other guy would still NOT have taken steps to get his coin examined by experts and the discovery of this different die would still have gone unpublished[/B]. Bottom line on this whole issue really is that it is very interesting that we are just now learning of a new die for a 1909 coin and it is thanks to people like Kevin and Brian who care enough to delve into the nitty gritty technical and time consuming research, including comparisons of minute die markers to known dies. Personally, I never sought to have my name attached to something like this, I was just curious about my coin since it was raw and looked like a proof but was a little different than the other known 1909 proofs. Also, I personally felt and suggested that Brian should be named as the "discoverer" of this die as he was the one who really identified it as being different, but it was he and Kevin who felt that since I allowed my coin to be photographed and authenticated first, my name should be attached to it. My feeling is that it really shouldn't matter whatsoever who "discovers" things like this in the coin world, it's more important to focus on the fact that someone took the time to compare, do the research to actually prove or disprove that it is a NEW die variety, however significant or insignificant that might end up being. It is people like Kevin and Brian who care enough to take their own time, in spite of their personal business and family, to contribute so heavily to our understanding by sharing and actually publishing their knowledge and research for the rest of us so we can all learn, understand and more thoroughly enjoy coins. And, sincerely, isn't that what loving coins is all about![/QUOTE]
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