1909 Lincoln Wheat Penny - Multiple Errors Obverse?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Rosalita, Oct 26, 2020.

  1. Rosalita

    Rosalita Member

    Hi guys,

    I have this 1909 Lincoln Wheat penny with multiple errors on the obverse including 2 spike heads above Lincoln's head, one off the top of Lincoln's head and one off the back of Lincoln's head. But need some help determining what are the small bumps of metal scattered mainly across the bottom half of the penny and various other areas on the obverse?

    Also I would like to know what is happening with the rim? Specifically the top part of the rim above Lincoln's head and under the rim. There is also an error on the rim by the "L" in Liberty and also a chip on the rim below the date.
    1909 Lincoln Wheat Penny (Obverse)-ccfopt.jpg 1909 Lincoln Wheat Penny (ObverseSide)-ccfopt.jpg 1909 Lincoln Wheat Penny (ObverseTop half)-ccfopt.jpg 1909 Lincoln Wheat (ObverseLeftSide)-ccfopt.jpg 1909 CloseUpRimB-ccfopt.jpg 1909 Lincoln Wheat Penny (ObverseFlat)-ccfopt.jpg 1909 Lincoln Wheat Penny (OvbverseRim1)-ccfopt.jpg 1909  Lincoln Wheat Penny (Reverse)-ccfopt.jpg
    Sorry for all the photo's. It was difficult to take clear pictures of all the various parts of the coin I have questions about.
     
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  3. DarkRage666

    DarkRage666 Wannabe Supporter!

    Could it be a fake? With all those “errors” it makes me suspicious
     
  4. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster It seemed like a good idea at the time.

    Minor die crack to the right of WE through the head. The rest look like a lot of small laminations. Maybe a few assorted contact marks mixed in
     
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  5. paddyman98

    paddyman98 Let me burst your bubble! Supporter

    I was also thinking it could be a modern counterfeit. IMO.
     
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  6. Heavymetal

    Heavymetal Supporter! Supporter

    Inconsequential minor ‘errors ‘ on a coin saved in high grades in huge numbers
    A little MAD but aren’t we all.
     
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  7. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    most likely a modern China counterfeit
     
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  8. Rosalita

    Rosalita Member

    1909 Lincoln Wheat Penny(weight)-ccfopt.jpg
     
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  9. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    Still think its counterfeit the strike/details just don't look right and with so many error appearances it just looks like modern china junk.
     
  10. Heavymetal

    Heavymetal Supporter! Supporter

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    Wondering what lead you to counterfeit?
    Here’s my 09 VDB found CRH 4 years ago and my 09 VDB purchase from 50 years ago
    I realize the OP isn’t VDB
     
  11. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 Well-Known Member

    Weight is correct .Metal Composition: 95% Copper - 5% Tin and Zinc. Diameter: 19 mm. Mass / Weight: 3.11 grams. What This Coin Looks Like (Obverse, Reverse, Mint Mark Location, Special Features, etc.): When the 1909 Lincoln Wheat Cents (Pennies) were first produced. Coin Value Chart: Typical Coin Prices, Values and Worth in USD based on Grade/Condition.
     
  12. Rosalita

    Rosalita Member

    I did not just find this penny in coin roll hunting. It was kept in my great grandfather's purse, along with many other old wheat pennies, for all this time and never looked at until now.
     
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  13. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 Well-Known Member

    You mean like a wallet . Were there any other coins there , just wondering .
     
  14. Heavymetal

    Heavymetal Supporter! Supporter

    Value: Priceless
     
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  15. Rosalita

    Rosalita Member

    So the main question is, are the linear features (metal bumps) on the whole bottom half of this coin due to a rusted die? What is the cause of these bumps?
     
  16. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 Well-Known Member

    Die chips ? A great many die cracks look like jagged, raised lines. However, there are 2 types of die cracks that generally resemble bubbles: Die chips are small, isolated bumps of metal that often take the form of a sharp or jagged mound.
     
  17. Heavymetal

    Heavymetal Supporter! Supporter

    I’m with @Oldhoopster post #3
    Not rusted die
     
  18. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    ditto
     
  19. paddyman98

    paddyman98 Let me burst your bubble! Supporter

    Ok.
     
  20. Rosalita

    Rosalita Member

    And what is going on with the top rim? Is this minor MAD?
     
  21. Heavymetal

    Heavymetal Supporter! Supporter

    Yes. That is Misaligned Die
     
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