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Message:: [QUOTE="illini420, post: 662029, member: 19423"]Not sure I agree with you... take a closer look at each of the coins and compare to the graded examples near the top of the first post. The Genuine 97 coin was not graded because of "Environmental Damage" which for copper coins usually means corrosion.  This coin, while it does have VG details, does also exhibit some corrosion which is evident with the pitting in the fields.  I agree with PCGS not grading this coin as a VG. The Genuine 98 coin was not graded because of "Damage."  I actually think this coin would be an easy VF coin and looks pretty good, but PCGS says it's not gradable because it is damaged.  There are a couple of deep hits (almost like punch marks) under the A and T of STATES on the obverse as well as the scratch above Liberty's eye.  Again, I agree with PCGS not grading this coin.   I appreciate PCGS being tough on these two for the above reasons as if I were ever buying these coins sight unseen or on poor photos (which I do not recommend) I would be upset with either of the Genuine 97 or 98 coins if I were expecting coins that looks like my VG10 or my VF30 instead.[/QUOTE]