1906 "BRASS" Indian Penny!

I'm sorry...I don't mean to cut you down...I just try to say what I think it right...
Again I'm sorry---

My 2 things still go....we need the weight....and about artifacts...my post still goes...

Speedy

 

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Thanks to the fella that HELPED ME! By E-mail,, post a better photo. I work late nights and dont have a life to speak of, always tierd!So. this weekend Ill mess around trying the post photos.Again thanks for the thread on that also.I hope the nice man will also post the "BRASS"! Quarter experimental peice "GRADED"! going for $8,000.00!! See you'al, maybe they did also have Experimental peices back in the day???????Stew on that!.

 

Chill out, dude. You're getting really riled up over nothing. If this brass what-the-heck-ever-it-is is that cool and important, send it off to PCGS or NGC. If it comes back BB'd then you'll know that you have a tampered with piece, if not, and it gets graded, then you have my, and everybody else's here's congratulations. That's the entire gist of what these nice folks here have been trying to tell you.

As for authenticity of the piece, obviously, since we can't hold it, test it, or view it in person, we all cannot make our best judgements as to the nature of this piece. Even a nice photo may not be enough to give us full conviction. I do wish you the best of luck getting it graded, and I know that many other people, including Speedy, do as well.

All I'm asking here is that you chill a little bit, and not get so uptight because a few people might not believe you right off the bat on an internet forum.

Best of luck to you!
~AJ

 

Did you send it in on an economy submission or the five-day service?

Charlie

 

Thanks , I thought my last post cleared all that till you just re-hashed it.Yes its a big deal to me, This would be the only one ever found to date as far as we know, you have one???????As far as photos that you said, maybe all the ones posted on this forum are "Fixed"??and not believeable, anyway, I again want to share my thanks to the fella that I e-mailed the rest of the photos to, maybe he will do so later today. Yes its a big deal! a very expensive coin my freinds. thanks for all your inputs.

 

Charlie42, I left it with the coin dealer at his shop to submit it with other coins he had also to send, he said around the middle of Nov. we would expect them back, I believe hes going with ANACS??And yes I will inform everyone here how it comes back.

 

See if this works???

 

I wish I can get these bigger!

 

Thanks for the photos....I've been wrong many times and I would be the first to say that but this just doesn't make "cents"...It seems like it would have been found before now....I mean its almost 100 years old and no collector has found it yet....that is what I don't get...

Speedy

 

2coins,
I hope it does come back from ANACS as a real brass indian cent.We'll all be waiting for the results.Good luck! Sorry for the "blue Cent" picture.I was just having fun,no offense intended.

 

BTW--Are any of the dealers you took it too Top known US Coin dealers...I know it was said before that most dealers know next to nothing about rare coins and I think thats right but the better known dealers are the ones I would trust...if they are some big name dealers would you mind posting who they were??

I'm also wondering something....can you read any of LIBERTY on the head???...it seems to me that the coin would only grade G/VG and maybe F with the LIBERTY on the head....
But I guess I'll wait to see the slab or the BB that it comes back in...

Speedy

 

Speedy, You are correct that its a circulated cent in fine cond.I got it from a guy who buys-out storage buildings and this was with alot of common US and forien coins,maybe someone had it for years in a drawer??its the same way you see other error coins for sale, where did those old ones come from? and new!. Heres a "BRASS" experimental quarter selling for $8,000.00! this wasnt suppose to get-out either, but did!maybe mine is the same "Experimental" pcs. from back then?

 

Also Speedy, the letters are al there (worn) even the L is clearly seen in the ribbon, all this has been checked,its a 100% goverment issue.The dealer Is not a real big guy, and I dont feel comfortable right now discloseing there name untill this coin comes back from gradeing. As for Mikj0o, thanks for being straight-up, cause I know that photo wasnt messed with by me.Apology accepted!

 

Ok...so this coin has seen circulation for sometime then...that is what doesn't make "cents"....it seems that some of ther smart collector would have seen it at some point in time and would have looked at it...

Right but it isn't right when you see a "new" error come to the ligth after it has been minted 100 years ago...it would have been found by now...

A few things...where does it say Brass...I don't see that??
Also the color is not the same as yours...if they are both pure brass they would seem to be near the same....

Then maybe VF...

I don't mean to be mean here....but I don't see how that can be proved...there are a good many fakes out there that have fooled experts....what proves that it is 100% goverment issue cent...they don't issue errors...
Did they coin dealers weight it???...did they give it any other tests??...if not then they can't say that it is a real cent or anything...

And rightly so....but how do yo know that he knows anything about errors???...if he told you I wouldn't go by that...when a person says they are smart in something that takes them down in my book...but if someone else told you that he was a good one to go to maybe...but even my dealer doesn't know much about errors...they sent away what they thought to be a rare error that had never been seen before...and it was a fake....so don't count your eggs....I haev before and its not a happy feeling when you get the coins back from the grading Co.

Again....everything I said was something I would say to anyone here...I'm not trying to be mean or sound rude....

Speedy

 

I took a nickel with a cud to a coin dealer once and asked him how much it was worth. He told me so spend it.

Charlie

 

2coins...
I've been thinking about this....I'm not going to post any more in this thread untill you have the coin back...
If its real I'll come back and say I was wrong and I'm sorry...I hope that if its real that we are the first to hear about it!

But if it comes back like we said all I can say is I'm sorry...I've had almost the same thing happen to me....I have sent a rarer coin to ANACS for it to come back cleaned...or damaged...and I know how it feels...

But I'm all for waiting to see what happenes...

Speedy

 

2coins, I hope for your sake that it does come back as struck on a brass planchet. And if it does I will happily come on here, eat humble pie and beg your forgiveness for having doubted it.

But I have seen literally hundreds of worn, cleaned indianhead cents that look EXACTLY like the most recent pictures you have posted of your coin.

If we seem overly skeptical it is because we are constantly having people come up with some item that they think is a great rarity. Every now and then we are thrilled to be able to confirm that yes they have hit the jackpot. But for everyone of those we have to wade through literally thousands of fakes, altered pieces, mis-identified pieces, and simply a lot of wishful thinking from people who have found something common that they think they are going to retire on. It makes us rather jaded.

The 99 quarter on an experimental planchet is interesting. Do you know any more about it? Unfortunately PCGS didn't give any real information about it on the holder and I'm curious about what is the experimental nature of it. (By the way I don't trust PCGS attributions very much either. I have seen too many simple identifications that they have blown completely. On another forum someone was asking about an 1837 large date dime and how it was different from the small date. In the tread he showed pictures of his PCGS large and small dates, and pictures of three or four more PCGS "large" dates were shown. Every single one of the coins were small dates. And this is an "arms length" varietiy, very easy to identify and PCGS blew it four times out of five.)

 

Thanks for everyones input,I did send the photos to GDJMSP,problems with my security settings must have prevented it, sorry. Yes I would say the same thing everyone has said if I were on the other side of the fence,understandable. The dealer selling the quarter error is that Fred Weinburg(Major error dealer)the statement on the coin said soft "golden brass" plancid from what I remember, go to his sight and read it.Ill keep you'al posted when this comes back slabed or other wise.......Thanks.

 

I can't say for sure but the color really looks funny to me. It's almost a sulfur color. When ever I see brass that's tarneshed it's brownish yellow.

I'm not excluding the possibilty that even a whole sheet of brass got mixed in with the standard coin metal but it seems very unlikely.

2coins i like your ethusiasim but:

A: it's too good to be true
B: Color is not a viable indicator
C: Assuming that color is any idicator, the color in the pics looks way off like paint or a sulfer coating (not that I'm saying that either is the case)