1904-O Barber Quarter rotated die error

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  1. Patrick M

    Patrick M Razor edge MD

    1904-O Barber Quarter
    Better Date - 15 degrees rotation Die Error
    Pretty cool one...just sharing

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  3. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Isn't 15 degrees within Mint tolerance? Nice layout!
     
  4. Patrick M

    Patrick M Razor edge MD

    If I'm not mistaken the Mint tolerance is 7 degrees for each die and I think it starts at 15 to be considered and error...noting below that. I might be wrong thou...
     
  5. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    Official Mint tolerance is 27 Degrees, and they are
    not considered collectable unless they are at least
    45 degree rotated, either clockwise or counterclockwise.

    It is rotated there 15 degrees you mention, and it's
    interesting, but it's not a true Rotated Reverse.
     
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  6. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Wouldn't 7 degrees (CW) and 7 degrees (CCW) be 14 degrees? Close enough!

    It may be considered an error at 15 degrees, but you probably won't find too many error dealers that would care about anything less than 90 degrees. Perhaps @Fred Weinberg will chime in to give us his view on this.
     
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  7. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Hah! It seems that I type too slow. Thanks, Fred!
     
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  8. Patrick M

    Patrick M Razor edge MD

    It makes perfect sense for the 45 degrees...it's obvious and you don't have to measure it to see it's there. I did't know about the 27 degrees thou.
     
  9. AmishJedi

    AmishJedi Well-Known Member

    I need to get me one of these Die Rotation tools (like in OP's images) - does anyone have a link/reference handy for me to download.

    I have been using a mirror & protractor, like an idiot. :ugh:
     
  10. Patrick M

    Patrick M Razor edge MD

    They are like $5 on ebay.
     
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  11. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    If you don't have the RR gauge, you can do most
    RR's this way

    If the top of the reverse points to 1:30 CW) or 10:30 (CCW),
    it's a 45 degree rotation.

    If the reverse points to 3:00 or 9:00, it's a 90 degree rotation

    If the reverse points to 6:00. it's a 180 degree rotated reverse.

    Just figure degree's based on those, plus/minus
     
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  12. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Yes it appears to be off by a little but it's well within tolerance. It certainly wouldn't grab my attention it's off by such a small amount.
     
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