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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Morgandude11, post: 2116137, member: 37839&quot;]The 1878 has significant scratches on the obverse.&nbsp; It is not a chemical cleaning--it shows evidence of a mechanical cleaning, and a re-toning.&nbsp; Was it also dipped?&nbsp; Probably, but there are hairline swirls on the obverse, showing an obvious cleaning.&nbsp;&nbsp; The 81s (a coin that can be bought in a non-details holder extremely easily that is beautiful and reasonably priced) also shows circular hairlines, indicating a buffing.&nbsp; Was that also dipped?&nbsp; Most likely.&nbsp; Whoever dipped both made them look dull and lifeless, as is often the case for inappropriately cleaned coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>By the way, why bother buying raw coins of common dates such as those, and sending them off to be slabbed?&nbsp;&nbsp; Beautiful examples of those dates are readily available in slabs, in high grades for minimal expenditure.&nbsp; It is really a waste of time buying cleaned coins, and attempting to get them certified--submit ONE for a learning experience, and then, do not do it again[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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