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<p>[QUOTE="SuperDave, post: 2635126, member: 1892"]I *will* say these new pics are a lot more encouraging. Not conclusive, but the date position looks much better and the mint mark begins to resemble the proper shape and orientation for VAM-6. The problem is, though, VAMming is not an inexact science, and the details used to define a certain variety must <b>exactly</b> match those known. These images don't have that degree of precision.</p><p><br /></p><p>The strike is <i>terrible</i> (but not out of the realm of possibility), and the indications seem to point towards strike rather than wear. By the time "normal wear" makes the ear and nearby hair blend that completely together, the rest of the coin is into VG territory, and it's not. The same can be said for the flatness of everything on the vertical line from the eagle's neck to the bow - if that's all wear, the outside top of the wings should show visible wear, and they don't. It's not enough to say unequivocally that it's a Mint State coin, but I'm willing to stipulate it's no worse than a decent AU and probably better. The surfaces are still not depicted in sufficient detail for intelligent opinion.</p><p><br /></p><p>So, [USER=84901]@180IQ[/USER], it's on you. Here's the VAM-6 detail page:</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.vamworld.com/1899-O+VAM-6" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.vamworld.com/1899-O+VAM-6" rel="nofollow">http://www.vamworld.com/1899-O+VAM-6</a></p><p><br /></p><p>The most important things to my mind for confirming the variety are the location of the date, the location and far right tilt of the mint mark, and the lines noted in the wing and between neck and wing (images from VAMworld):</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]580532[/ATTACH] </p><p>[ATTACH=full]580533[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>You'll also note doubling mentioned. It's possible for the weak strike to have a bearing on how visible that is, and although the presence of it helps to confirm, the lack of it isn't necessarily proof that it's not VAM-6 as a result. I expect the details I mentioned to have the greatest likelihood of clearly surviving a weak strike, and will be enough in and of themselves to confirm the attribution.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Now, onto the Gold Dollar. This is a <b>major</b> rarity above MS64, and it needs to be MS65 or better in order to have the value you suggest. The only appropriate container for such a coin is the slab of a major TPG so the grade can be clearly confirmed. It would require truly professional-level images of the coin for anyone here to hope to offer an informed opinion of the grade, especially knowing the value <b>triples</b> between MS64 and MS65.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="SuperDave, post: 2635126, member: 1892"]I *will* say these new pics are a lot more encouraging. Not conclusive, but the date position looks much better and the mint mark begins to resemble the proper shape and orientation for VAM-6. The problem is, though, VAMming is not an inexact science, and the details used to define a certain variety must [B]exactly[/B] match those known. These images don't have that degree of precision. The strike is [I]terrible[/I] (but not out of the realm of possibility), and the indications seem to point towards strike rather than wear. By the time "normal wear" makes the ear and nearby hair blend that completely together, the rest of the coin is into VG territory, and it's not. The same can be said for the flatness of everything on the vertical line from the eagle's neck to the bow - if that's all wear, the outside top of the wings should show visible wear, and they don't. It's not enough to say unequivocally that it's a Mint State coin, but I'm willing to stipulate it's no worse than a decent AU and probably better. The surfaces are still not depicted in sufficient detail for intelligent opinion. So, [USER=84901]@180IQ[/USER], it's on you. Here's the VAM-6 detail page: [url]http://www.vamworld.com/1899-O+VAM-6[/url] The most important things to my mind for confirming the variety are the location of the date, the location and far right tilt of the mint mark, and the lines noted in the wing and between neck and wing (images from VAMworld): [ATTACH=full]580532[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]580533[/ATTACH] You'll also note doubling mentioned. It's possible for the weak strike to have a bearing on how visible that is, and although the presence of it helps to confirm, the lack of it isn't necessarily proof that it's not VAM-6 as a result. I expect the details I mentioned to have the greatest likelihood of clearly surviving a weak strike, and will be enough in and of themselves to confirm the attribution. Now, onto the Gold Dollar. This is a [B]major[/B] rarity above MS64, and it needs to be MS65 or better in order to have the value you suggest. The only appropriate container for such a coin is the slab of a major TPG so the grade can be clearly confirmed. It would require truly professional-level images of the coin for anyone here to hope to offer an informed opinion of the grade, especially knowing the value [B]triples[/B] between MS64 and MS65.[/QUOTE]
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