1899-O Morgan Error or Die Break?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Vickie Ulrich, Jun 25, 2021.

  1. Vickie Ulrich

    Vickie Ulrich New Member

    I recently purchased several Morgan’s and this one was among the purchase. I have tried to find information on it, but can’t find what I am looking for. The lines by the eye and back of the head are raised so it makes me think it’s a die break, but I don’t know and the missing 1 in the date is strange. You can see that the 1 is slightly raised but not like the other numbers. Any, help about this coin would be greatly appreciated!

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  3. AidenAlexander

    AidenAlexander Well-Known Member

    I think it’s just pmd can we a full picture of the coin.
  4. Robert Ransom

    Robert Ransom Well-Known Member

    Looks like die breaks, IMO. Would like full photos, obv & rev, please.
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  5. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    Full obverse and reverse pic's please, thank you.
  6. Vickie Ulrich

    Vickie Ulrich New Member

    I will post a full picture.
  7. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    All PMD IMO. Someone deliberately put scratches in the coin long ago. Use a tooth pick to see if they are incused. If they are, then PMD. I've never seen die cracks anywhere close to what that is. The 1 in the date took a hit, so again PMD.
    Welcome to CT BTW.
    Not any relation to Gary from Sacramento, are you? Old High School friend of mine.
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  8. Vickie Ulrich

    Vickie Ulrich New Member

    Hi thank you. No relation. What is PMD? I’m really new to all of this.
  9. Vickie Ulrich

    Vickie Ulrich New Member

    I posted the full pictures.
  10. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    PMD (Post Mint Damage). Welcome to CT, Good luck
  11. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    First, welcome to the neighborhood, Vickie!

    PMD is "post-mint damage".

    Those marks are not merely scratches. They are severe gouges with coin metal pushed out along the edge.

    FYI, die cracks are not usually attributed as errors on Morgan and Peace Silver Dollars. More often, they are used to determine die state. You can learn more about this on VAMWorld where all Morgan and Peace Dollar varieties are identified.
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  12. 1865King

    1865King Well-Known Member

  13. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    How much did you pay?just curious and the one above is just damage.
  14. Vickie Ulrich

    Vickie Ulrich New Member

    I posted them.
    Thank you! And thanks for the information! I appreciate it!
  15. Vickie Ulrich

    Vickie Ulrich New Member

    I bought 58 coins at $24 each.
  16. Vickie Ulrich

    Vickie Ulrich New Member

    Are they gouges if the lines are raised?
  17. yakpoo

    yakpoo Member

    Clearly PMD.
  18. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    It's similar to the "crater effect" when a meteorite strikes the earth. The recessed area is the gouge, and the raised area is the coin metal pushed up and out of it.
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  19. halfcent1793

    halfcent1793 Well-Known Member

    Scratches for sure. PMD.
  20. Dave Waterstraat

    Dave Waterstraat Well-Known Member

    Anna lost a knife fight.
  21. Vickie Ulrich

    Vickie Ulrich New Member

    Gotcha! Good example! Thank you.
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