1899 Black Eagle... Improperly Stored?

Discussion in 'Paper Money' started by Endeavor, Aug 17, 2017.

  1. Endeavor

    Endeavor Well-Known Member

    I been really wanting to get one of these. Found one in a decent price for the grade, but the paper looks wrinkled. I can't imagine it would have been graded About Uncirculated if the paper was wrinkled prior to grading.

    So do you think this was a result of being stored improper?

    1899 Black Eagle
     
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  3. Numbers

    Numbers Senior Member

    Remember that the large-size notes were printed on damp paper (to keep the paper from tearing under the pressure of the intaglio plates) and then dried before the sheets were cut into single notes. So there are plenty of CU notes that show this kind of paper wave. Some collectors like it because it's a sign of originality; other collectors prefer notes that look flat like modern currency--though for large-size notes, flatness often indicates that the note has been washed and pressed.
     
  4. lettow

    lettow Senior Member

    It is called paper wave and as indicated it was a result of the wet printing process.
     
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  5. DUNK 2

    DUNK 2 Well-Known Member

    It's an awesome looking Note and the waves make it unique.
     
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  6. DUNK 2

    DUNK 2 Well-Known Member

    These are two favorites in my collection. I picked them up raw about 6 years ago.

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  7. MitchBailey

    MitchBailey Active Member

    That note is a dandy. As others have said, paper wave is the norm on those big old notes. The crease is what gave it the 53 I assume. At least it's not a dirty crease. I would make him an offer.
     
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  8. SteveInTampa

    SteveInTampa Always Learning

    I didn't see a "Make Offer" option, although I guess you could message the seller and try to communicate an offer. It's actually not a bad price for this Fr.232 in 53PPQ condition. Most sell for $300 and up with a *PQ designation.
     
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  9. Noah Finney

    Noah Finney Well-Known Member

    Wish I could have one.... PREETY :joyful:
     
  10. Coinfrog

    Coinfrog New Member

    The note shows natural paper wave, which is fine but not the issue. The centering on both sides is poor - I would pass. Remember that centering, a critical issue in grading MS notes, is not a factor in grading circulated notes. This is well below-average.
     
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  11. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    You will find a vast majority of notes from this era with centering issues
    Basically i try for a minimum grade of 53PPQ, this grade is usually easy
    On the eyes as well as the wallet, especially on the older notes as the
    Prices seem to go overboard from there.
     
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  12. moneycostingmemoney

    moneycostingmemoney Yukon Coriolis

    I do it all the time and have gotten great deals on stuff that has been floating about the bay for a while. Can't hurt to ask, right?
    Although I did have one guy respond with a "No. Please never contact me again." It made me go back and make sure I didn't miss a figure in the offer I presented. Nope, the guy must have been insulted. Oh well.
     
  13. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    By all means, allot of times the seller will offer you some sort of discount all you
    have to do is ask :)
     
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  14. Coinfrog

    Coinfrog New Member

    You're right.

    I do disagree, however, with @mpcusa's comment that the "vast majority of notes from this era have centering issues." Hardly so.
     
  15. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    The sophistication of the printing was different so you will have less quality notes
    Out there, be it from centering issues or anything that has to do with the over all
    grade of the note.
     
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