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<p>[QUOTE="eddiespin, post: 6599886, member: 4920"]I'll answer that one generally. You should never take ANA standards literally. Take the statement you referenced, that AU58s are better than MS65s. Sometimes that's yes, sometimes it's no. Let's see the coin, then I'll tell you. Only a blundering nitwit would make a broad, categorical statement like that.</p><p><br /></p><p>And let me tell you one other thing. Grading standards weren't invented by ANA. They weren't invented, period. For Circulated grades, all ANA did was grouped some grades coincidental with levels of circulation wear for us. They're the ones responsible for that hierarchy we grade by, but that's it. Do you collect sports cards, antique watches, U.S. notes, stamps, fossils, comic books, <i>ad nauseam</i>? Condition. That's the criteria, the technical grade. We don't need ANA to tell us that for coins. And for Uncirculated, all we're grading on is bag marks and luster, principally, those two are the main criteria because presumptively there's no wear on these.</p><p><br /></p><p>Some prolific genius, and I'll not mention who because he was a member, said to me in another forum, were everything else equal, he'd actually pay more for a coin direct from the Mint than one he got in circulation. Now, understand this, same exact MS grade. Why? Because the latter was in circulation. That made a difference to this idiot dealer who purports to teach us how to grade. If you don't get what I'm saying, here, you missed the boat, entirely. Collect stamps.</p><p><br /></p><p>And nothing personal. Just hate idiots like this. That's why a guy like Wexler is a gem, just as an example. I can name others, as well as others of the idiots, but I shan't. Good enough answer?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="eddiespin, post: 6599886, member: 4920"]I'll answer that one generally. You should never take ANA standards literally. Take the statement you referenced, that AU58s are better than MS65s. Sometimes that's yes, sometimes it's no. Let's see the coin, then I'll tell you. Only a blundering nitwit would make a broad, categorical statement like that. And let me tell you one other thing. Grading standards weren't invented by ANA. They weren't invented, period. For Circulated grades, all ANA did was grouped some grades coincidental with levels of circulation wear for us. They're the ones responsible for that hierarchy we grade by, but that's it. Do you collect sports cards, antique watches, U.S. notes, stamps, fossils, comic books, [I]ad nauseam[/I]? Condition. That's the criteria, the technical grade. We don't need ANA to tell us that for coins. And for Uncirculated, all we're grading on is bag marks and luster, principally, those two are the main criteria because presumptively there's no wear on these. Some prolific genius, and I'll not mention who because he was a member, said to me in another forum, were everything else equal, he'd actually pay more for a coin direct from the Mint than one he got in circulation. Now, understand this, same exact MS grade. Why? Because the latter was in circulation. That made a difference to this idiot dealer who purports to teach us how to grade. If you don't get what I'm saying, here, you missed the boat, entirely. Collect stamps. And nothing personal. Just hate idiots like this. That's why a guy like Wexler is a gem, just as an example. I can name others, as well as others of the idiots, but I shan't. Good enough answer?[/QUOTE]
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