1893 S Authenticity Help

Morgandude11 · May 13, 2020

CamaroDMD said: ↑

I totally agree.

All I am saying is, I think the seemingly universal agreement that a rare coin must be fake or have an issue because its not slabbed is just silly. That's all. Now, slabs do provide a lot of security when buying coins online and that's great. But, they are not the end all.

Personally, I roll my eyes when someone says "a slab adds no value" because I disagree with that. Slabs have a place...they provide the unbiased opinion of an industry recognized expert into the quality and authenticity of the coin. That does have value...in several ways. But, on the flip side, the lack of that unbiased expert opinion does not on its own say the coin is bad. I feel like there are a lot of people here that don't agree with that.

I also roll my eyes when I see on Pawn Stars a coin come in and Rick tells the owner "I have to get it slabbed to be able to sell it." That's just BS.

Again, with this coin...there are a lot of issues. It's clearly been harshly cleaned. I'll be honest, I have not studied the specific markers on the 1893-S to be able to say for certain if this coin is authentic or not. But, I am certain I could learn them and study the coin and make that determination on my own without PCGS if I needed to.
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I think we substantially agree. My point about buying in a slab from a very reliable dealer is more for vindication of authenticity, and a guarantee of genuineness. Grading on Morgans, as we know, gets extremely subjective. Looking at the pictures of the aforementioned coin, there would be enough doubt in my mind about authenticity. As regards grading, I would have no doubt that it would be a details coin, if I were sure it was genuine. I am undecided as to whether or not it is genuine. I would have to see it to know more.

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CamaroDMD · May 13, 2020

Morgandude11 said: ↑

I think we substantially agree. My point about buying in a slab from a very reliable dealer is more for vindication of authenticity, and a guarantee of genuineness. Grading on Morgans, as we know, gets extremely subjective. Looking at the pictures of the aforementioned coin, there would be enough doubt in my mind about authenticity. As regards grading, I would have no doubt that it would be a details coin, if I were sure it was genuine. I am undecided as to whether or not it is genuine. I would have to see it to know more.
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I 100% agree. And don't get me wrong, I like slabs and I tend to buy high dollar coins slabbed (the exception being when I buy nice German coins...I will buy raw coins from Ron Guth as I totally trust him). I just think that slabs can be a crutch sometimes but they do have a very valuable place in this hobby.

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