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<p>[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 1620596, member: 15309"]It is very difficult to explain to someone who doesn't know what a polished coin looks like the difference between a polished coin and a coin with original luster. If we showed you two coins side by side, you would see the difference instantly. Unfortunately, that is not an option. Please understand that we are trying to help you. The minute that you posted that angled photo of the coin, Tom and the rest of us instantly knew that you had a badly polished Barber Half. If we had any doubt, you removed such doubt when you informed us that this coin came from one of those framed displays which are notorious for having polished coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>Barber Half Dollars are prime targets for doctoring due to their rarity and value. They are routinely dipped, cleaned, whizzed, polished etc. Here are some examples:</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Barber%20Half%20Dollars/BHD1912NGCAUDetailsCleaned_zps75428dbb.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><img src="http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Barber%20Half%20Dollars/BarberHalfDollar1898-SWhizzed_zps3b6007e6.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>You made the comment that your coin must be "the most exquisitely polished (without leaving any wear on any high spot, and while cleaning out every single grove and leaving nothing behind) coin that has ever been done in the history of coins" yet the members of this forum immediately recognized it for what it was. Those two things don't jive. IMO, this link shows a coin that has been polished with some skill.</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=1152&lotNo=8254" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=1152&lotNo=8254" rel="nofollow">1892 50C --Polished--NGC Details. AU</a></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://images.ha.com/lf?set=path%5B6%2F3%2F1%2F3%2F6313551%5D%2Csizedata%5B450x2000%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Now contrast these coins and their look with an actual uncirculated Barber Half that has been properly dipped.</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=1169&lotNo=4571" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=1169&lotNo=4571" rel="nofollow">1893 50C MS66 PCGS.</a></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://images.ha.com/lf?set=path%5B8%2F0%2F9%2F3%2F8093806%5D%2Csizedata%5B450x2000%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>It is my hope that you can see the difference between your coin and the 1893 MS66 posted above and the similarities between your coin and the other problem coins posted above. You need to realize that the people who alter these coins do so with the intent to fool people. If their finished product was a clearly altered coin, even to newbies, there would be no reason to polish the coin in the first place. BTW, coins that are dipped are rinsed after the dipping to remove any excess dip from the surface of the coin.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 1620596, member: 15309"]It is very difficult to explain to someone who doesn't know what a polished coin looks like the difference between a polished coin and a coin with original luster. If we showed you two coins side by side, you would see the difference instantly. Unfortunately, that is not an option. Please understand that we are trying to help you. The minute that you posted that angled photo of the coin, Tom and the rest of us instantly knew that you had a badly polished Barber Half. If we had any doubt, you removed such doubt when you informed us that this coin came from one of those framed displays which are notorious for having polished coins. Barber Half Dollars are prime targets for doctoring due to their rarity and value. They are routinely dipped, cleaned, whizzed, polished etc. Here are some examples: [IMG]http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Barber%20Half%20Dollars/BHD1912NGCAUDetailsCleaned_zps75428dbb.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Barber%20Half%20Dollars/BarberHalfDollar1898-SWhizzed_zps3b6007e6.jpg[/IMG] You made the comment that your coin must be "the most exquisitely polished (without leaving any wear on any high spot, and while cleaning out every single grove and leaving nothing behind) coin that has ever been done in the history of coins" yet the members of this forum immediately recognized it for what it was. Those two things don't jive. IMO, this link shows a coin that has been polished with some skill. [URL="http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=1152&lotNo=8254"]1892 50C --Polished--NGC Details. AU[/URL] [img]http://images.ha.com/lf?set=path%5B6%2F3%2F1%2F3%2F6313551%5D%2Csizedata%5B450x2000%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D[/img] Now contrast these coins and their look with an actual uncirculated Barber Half that has been properly dipped. [URL="http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=1169&lotNo=4571"]1893 50C MS66 PCGS.[/URL] [img]http://images.ha.com/lf?set=path%5B8%2F0%2F9%2F3%2F8093806%5D%2Csizedata%5B450x2000%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D[/img] It is my hope that you can see the difference between your coin and the 1893 MS66 posted above and the similarities between your coin and the other problem coins posted above. You need to realize that the people who alter these coins do so with the intent to fool people. If their finished product was a clearly altered coin, even to newbies, there would be no reason to polish the coin in the first place. BTW, coins that are dipped are rinsed after the dipping to remove any excess dip from the surface of the coin.[/QUOTE]
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