1892 Indian Head Penny DDR

I'm trying to get a sense of value here. I hope to hear about the grade of this coin, and understand if this is a known snow/other variation. (snow 12 or 13 possible, but I can't find an image). There is a double die shown in the close up of the reverse. I wish the images were better, alas I don't possess this coin at the moment. Thanks in advance.

 

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Hey Boot, good eye. However, if the doubling you are seeing is on the outside of the wreath, than it is more than likely not a doubled die but extra outlines or die deterioration. Look for doubling inside the devices, like the veins in the leafs or doubling of the leaf edges inside the wreath. Some DDRs do show doubling outside the wreath, but these will also show doubling inside. An example would be the 1889 DDR-003 or S-37.

Currently, there are 5 known DDRs for 1892, and we have pictures of four of them: DDR-001, DDR-002, DDR-003, and DDR-004.

 

Ah, I should also add that whizzing can cause extra outlines that resemble die deterioration.

 

Thanks, all very helpful. I will have to wait to have the coin, to get a better look at the detail. Glad to have the references. Thank you RBBDoughty.

 

Whizzing????

 

Whizzing is applying a coating of material onto the coin, to give it a luster that has likely worn off due to circulation or cleaning.

 

Ugh, that is a consideration. I thought the toning looked genuine here. I will have to get the coin into my hands, and check the reverse under a loop/light to see if this is A genuine DDR or just old die. I hope not whizzing.

 

I'll post a whizzed IHC whenever I next find one. It is when someone uses a rotary tool to clean the coin, such as a dremel tool. Whizzing is regarded as the absolute worst thing that can happen to a coin, and some collectors consider them as evil as counterfeits. A whizzed coin has altered surfaces, and is often regarded as destroyed. The barber quarter in this thread is a good example. You can see a faint extra outline under the chin, and in front of the nose. Also, you can see spots around the stars and under the date that show the original coin surface, where the the dremel tool was unable to reach.

 

KurtS posted this example of die deterioration in another thread. It is a perfect example of genuine deterioration of the die.

 

Hello,
How do you safely clean a coin?
I have what I am sure is an Indian Head Penny that is covered in a hard substance that makes reading it impossible. My daughter had found it on the playground.
Thanks

 

BTW, this is a cent. The U.S. never issued pennies.

 

Noted, i.e. cent.