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Message:: [QUOTE="iPen, post: 2062314, member: 69760"]Thanks for that example, <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/members/paddy54.19250/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/members/paddy54.19250/">Paddy54</a>. I can see how MD tends to have a "flat" doubling off to one side. After further reading what's on the Wexler site, I guess I'm just generally confused with MD, though the tell tale signs are very clear (e.g. flat doubling, not raised and rounded doubling, etc.). The confusing bit is that if it's MD caused by loose die parts when pressing the coins together, why is it usually just the letters/numbers/MM, and not the entirety of the coin (e.g. the portrait and rest of the design features)? For example, on Wexler's site they have this image below which is MD on the portrait of Kennedy. Why don't most MD coins have that doubling on the portrait? Isn't it two solid dies sandwiching a planchet, and when it's a loose die(s), the ENTIRE planchet should show shifts on every single design element most of the time? <a href="http://doubleddie.com/144822.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://doubleddie.com/144822.html" rel="nofollow">http://doubleddie.com/144822.html</a> <img src="http://doubleddie.com/mediac/450_0/media/Mechanical$20Doubling$2050c$20Obv.$20$281$29$20150$20dpi$20$28profile$29.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]