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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Lehigh96, post: 1881772, member: 15309&quot;]Uh oh, we are getting serious now, Doug has resorted to breaking down posts into sections.&nbsp; I will not follow suit but I will answer your questions and address your points.</p><p><br /></p><p>It doesn&#039;t bother me that you vehemently disagree with TPG grading standards, not a bit.&nbsp; What bothers me is when you present your grading method as CORRECT and the TPG method as INCORRECT.&nbsp; Here is what surprises me.&nbsp; You relish the fact that your grading methods are much different than those used by the TPGs, yet when I paint it in a negative light by saying you are part of the &quot;lunatic fringe&quot; you seem to have a problem with it.&nbsp; I though you would wear it as a badge of honor.&nbsp; But make no mistake, you are part of the &quot;lunatic fringe&quot; with respect to grading.&nbsp; And the only reason you are able to take such a conservative stance on grading is because you don&#039;t collect coins.&nbsp; Those of us who are not on the sidelines don&#039;t have the choice of simply dismissing TPG grades, even if we disagree with them as much as you do.</p><p><br /></p><p>I have told you this many times over the years but you just never listen to my constructive criticism.&nbsp; As a moderator, you bear a higher responsibility for both the content and tone of your posts than a regular member of the forum.&nbsp; You routinely post information that is not consistent with what is accepted by the numismatic community.&nbsp; When challenged on any point by me or any other member, you respond with condescension and insolence that is purposefully designed to diminish the credibility of the member who is challenging you.&nbsp; In doing so, you cause those in a position to challenge you (experienced members), to become frustrated and feel unwelcome on the forum, thereby incentivizing them to leave permanently.&nbsp; If you don&#039;t see the frustration of the members of this forum then you are either blind or you just don&#039;t care.&nbsp; Either way, it is a problem, and it is hurting the overall health of the forum.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now back to the topic at hand.&nbsp; So your original opinion was that the coin would Genuine grade for damage and then you backed off a little by saying it was a coin flip.&nbsp; That still means that you think PCGS is as likely to bag the coin as they are to grade it.&nbsp; But when I asked Matt, he said that this coin would have 0% chance of ending up in a Genuine holder.&nbsp; Now Doug, you can say whatever you want about me, but Matt Dinger is a professional numismatist/coin dealer who submits coins to both NGC and PCGS on a regular basis.&nbsp; This is his business.&nbsp; Coin dealers don&#039;t make money by being wrong about problem coins.&nbsp; Your opinion that PCGS&nbsp; will bag this coin 50% of the time is an inherent condemnation of his grading skills.&nbsp; But my guess is that it doesn&#039;t bother him at all because he probably has the same view of your grading methods that I do.&nbsp; And while we are on that subject.&nbsp; If we assume that the gouge appears more severe than it really is in the photo, and that you had think it would grade, what numerical grade did you think it would get?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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