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<p>[QUOTE="mikem2000, post: 1825896, member: 30574"]C'mom Doug, the second picture is worse than the first. That over exposure can be hiding all sorts of sins,</p><p>But lets get past that that and I will conceed the point of gradeflation, but so what.</p><p><br /></p><p>Things change, they used to do kickoffs from the 40 yard line then the 35 yard line then the 30 and now back to 35 yard line. The important thing is not if the rules change, but if everyone understands them or not.</p><p><br /></p><p>While it is impossible to have 100% standards in coin grading since no two are alike we all need to do our part to attempt consistancy. </p><p><br /></p><p>This is what PCGS says an MS 65 Morgan should look like.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]300506[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>It looks similar to the MS 65 that is posted and that is great. Certainly the two coins you represented don't even look close to this. In addition, if this PCGS coin image would come across JA's desk he would say "Bean It" solid for the the grade. It all good to be on the same page. So while you may disagree with the grade other respected "coin guys" do not.</p><p><br /></p><p> Now you would probably call the coin a 63, but what good does that do anyone? I know what you mean, because I know "your' grading system, but someone who doesn't know you would have no clue what you mean, you might as well grade the coin "Q" by your standards. Without a frame of reference no one knows what that means. In addition you cannot say any coin is "overgraded" without stating what reference point you are referring to. It really is not a right or wrong thing on what measuring stick you are using. It is just what the PRESENT accepted standards are.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now as I eluded to in my previous post, this "looser" grading system may be superior. Going back to your first coin, I would guestimate that coin is better than at least 95% of the Morgans out there and you would like to grade it 65. That does not make a lot of sense to me since that would mean you would have to cram 95% of the UNC Morgans inro Grades MS60 -65 and spread out the reamaining 5% over grades MS66 -MS 70. If you spread them out more evenly, it would most likley be a more accurate sytem[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="mikem2000, post: 1825896, member: 30574"]C'mom Doug, the second picture is worse than the first. That over exposure can be hiding all sorts of sins, But lets get past that that and I will conceed the point of gradeflation, but so what. Things change, they used to do kickoffs from the 40 yard line then the 35 yard line then the 30 and now back to 35 yard line. The important thing is not if the rules change, but if everyone understands them or not. While it is impossible to have 100% standards in coin grading since no two are alike we all need to do our part to attempt consistancy. This is what PCGS says an MS 65 Morgan should look like. [ATTACH=full]300506[/ATTACH] It looks similar to the MS 65 that is posted and that is great. Certainly the two coins you represented don't even look close to this. In addition, if this PCGS coin image would come across JA's desk he would say "Bean It" solid for the the grade. It all good to be on the same page. So while you may disagree with the grade other respected "coin guys" do not. Now you would probably call the coin a 63, but what good does that do anyone? I know what you mean, because I know "your' grading system, but someone who doesn't know you would have no clue what you mean, you might as well grade the coin "Q" by your standards. Without a frame of reference no one knows what that means. In addition you cannot say any coin is "overgraded" without stating what reference point you are referring to. It really is not a right or wrong thing on what measuring stick you are using. It is just what the PRESENT accepted standards are. Now as I eluded to in my previous post, this "looser" grading system may be superior. Going back to your first coin, I would guestimate that coin is better than at least 95% of the Morgans out there and you would like to grade it 65. That does not make a lot of sense to me since that would mean you would have to cram 95% of the UNC Morgans inro Grades MS60 -65 and spread out the reamaining 5% over grades MS66 -MS 70. If you spread them out more evenly, it would most likley be a more accurate sytem[/QUOTE]
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