1890 CC. Opinions on grade? What do you think?

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  1. Kozmo70

    Kozmo70 Member

    C3E582E7-9FFA-489F-9A09-55F52D41F369.jpeg BA85D2CA-30B4-4D47-B805-980AAD17FBCE.jpeg Just want some opinions on this coin?
     
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  3. BlackberryPie

    BlackberryPie I like pie

    62/63 some of those gouges look deep.
     
  4. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Nice reverse, CC mint, pretty color, I would not think below 63, maybe higher due to color and MM.
     
  5. Inspector43

    Inspector43 72 Year Collector

    58 and awesome.
     
  6. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    You think the hair above the ear is wear? Could be. I was thinking softness. I hate grading from photos and not in hand.
     
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  7. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Hard to tell if it is a weak strike or light wear. Since the softness is in a few places, despite the fact that the hair details are sharp, I am going to go AU 58.
     
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  8. CoinCorgi

    CoinCorgi Derp, derp, derp!

    63 because no way the TPG gave this an AU (even though I think it probably is wear and should be AU)
     
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  9. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Normally, that date is pretty well struck, so I think a TPG would recognize that it is very light circulation wear, so it is in an AU 58 slab.
     
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  10. CoinCorgi

    CoinCorgi Derp, derp, derp!

    Hmmm.
     
  11. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    MS-63.

    I think that some people are confusing the darker area on the cheek with wear.
     
  12. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Not the cheek-the cap, top of the head, wings, and denuded breast of the eagle.
     
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  13. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    It's too bad that the obverse doesn't look more like the reverse. It would be a 66 or better. I'm in the 63 camp. ~ Chris
     
  14. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    I think 58.
    I don't think the eagles breast can pass as unc.
     
  15. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    If it went in an AU-58 holder, it would not stay there for long unless an "end user" collector bought it at a premium. If it really is rubbed, it will be an MS-62 eventually. In case you have not looked lately, AU-58 has been "degraded." It's what AU-55 used to be.
     
  16. QuintupleSovereign

    QuintupleSovereign Well-Known Member

    AU-58. Slight wear on the eagle's breast and on the obverse hair.
     
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  17. toned_morgan

    toned_morgan Toning Lover

    Yeah, I'm going to say MS63. It would be 64 if those scratches weren't so deep and numerous. It does look very soft and resemblant of an AU coin but I think that is just the strike. It also has too much luster to be AU.
     
  18. QuintupleSovereign

    QuintupleSovereign Well-Known Member

    I don't think that luster alone is enough to make a coin MS; after all, AU-58 coins are "sliders" that could probably have graded MS-62/63 were it not for a slight rub here or there.
     
  19. Inspector43

    Inspector43 72 Year Collector

    I hate grading from photos also. I like the coin.
     
  20. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    For many years, it has not only been enough to make an MS coin; it's been enough to lift an MS-64 to MS-65 or 66.

    Sometimes you don't even need the luster. It can be rubbed, and still it's MS. PCGS called this an MS-60.

    1834 Classic Qu Eag O.jpg 1834 Classic Qu Eag R.jpg
     
  21. QuintupleSovereign

    QuintupleSovereign Well-Known Member

    Then let's call it what it is: a decline in grading standards!
     
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