1890 CC GSA What do YOU grade it?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by LostDutchman, Dec 13, 2010.

  1. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    Too baggy on the cheek and in the field in front of the face.
    And there's what appears to be some rim hits just below the eye.
    With luck I'd say MS-62.
     
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  3. ddoomm1

    ddoomm1 keep on running

    wow...all that frost...mabye 62..Id go with MS-63
     
  4. RaceBannon

    RaceBannon Member

    Love that frosty look. I'll go with 63 due to chatter on/around the lady's face.
     
  5. Duke Kavanaugh

    Duke Kavanaugh The Big Coin Hunter

    Put me in the 63 crowd but I'd also go 63+
     
  6. au and ms coins

    au and ms coins Junior Member

  7. FishyOne

    FishyOne Member

    Looks like a nice 63 to me.
     
  8. prolawn_care

    prolawn_care New Member

    I'm going 63 on this one, but might go a 64 because of the lower standards... That being said i'd be suprised if it goes lower than 62 or higher than 65. NICE COIN none the less!
     
  9. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    While I know there are those who make that claim I don't believe it for a second. In my opinion the reason is the same as it is for coins with a famous pedigree, of a high value, of a certain rarity, or those with attractive toning.

    And let's not forget, there were millions of other Morgans that were kept in bags just as long as the GSAs were. In fact most of the Morgans that are seen today came from bags that the public never saw until the 1950's & 60's. And there is no special allowance made for them.
     
  10. Shoewrecky

    Shoewrecky Coin Hoarder

    Matt, would I get it graded? Eh, Maybe you only live once so do what you feel is going to be the right thing. As for grading, I think it's going to get a MS62/63.
     
  11. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    I do assume that we both at least agree they are graded slightly differently then CC dollars not in GSA boxes?

    I think there are several factors as to why this is. They are from a famous hoard firstly, but this famous hoard was known to have been stored in bags for many years. Hence it is also known that GSA coins tend to be bag marked. The other BU coins which we see frequently are known to have been stored in bags for years but there is really no way to determine which one was and which one wasn't. With a GSA coin you KNOW it was in a bag for some 80+ years (I can make good change for a C note I promise). It is documented.
     
  12. Vroomer2

    Vroomer2 Active Member

    MS-64 Star, at least.

    With the GSA dollars, they have never been dipped or cleaned. Only been in bags and put into the holders. Totally original coins. Bag marks don't count.

    The Lady's cheek is holding this one back.
     
  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Yup ;)

    They are often given a completely unjustified grade bump just because they were GSA coins.
     
  14. Mojavedave

    Mojavedave Senior Member

    My guess would be an MS63.

    I am very curious, as I have a 1885-CC GSA in holder with certifications. I wonder how they grade these coins in holders. Do they remove and replace the coin for an actual examination or view through the protective cover ? How does the coin come back to the owner, still in the original holder or what ?

    Dave
     
  15. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    They just grade it in the holder.
     
  16. cubenewb

    cubenewb Consumer of Knowledge

    I'd say 63 based off my limited exposure to morgans, I was not aware of this so-called 'grade bump' for GSA dollars, but even so I think 63 is a solid guess
     
  17. vnickels

    vnickels Matt Draiss Numismatics & Galleries

  18. Speedie

    Speedie New Member

    I'm going to say NGC will give it a 63. Weak breast feathers hold me back from saying 64. If it was PCGS I'd say borderline 62/63.
     
  19. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    They leave it in the original holder and grade it. Then they put a band around the original holder with the grade printed on the band.
     
  20. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

  21. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    And 63 it is. NGC just posted the grade this afternoon and she MS63'ed. I'll post pics when I get it back.
     
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