1887-O... actually a 1887/6-O? (Early Die State?) - VAM 3?

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  1. BoredOnHere

    BoredOnHere New Member

    Hi,

    Picked up a 1887-O recently and was wondering if it was actually an early die state 1887/6-O. There isn't a die crack near the "I" in liberty (as would be in a late die state), but the overdate seems more pronounced than usual, especially to the right "6" curving towards the "7". Usually it's really hard to spot even in MS, but take a look below at the date..

    There aren't too many diagnostics for a 1887/6-O. Wondering if someone could help a noob out.

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  3. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Nope. The "six" looks like a toning stain. :sorry:
     
  4. BoredOnHere

    BoredOnHere New Member

    But it raises up... (in person). Didn't get a side angle. Hard to see also, but the right side of the "6" crosses the 7 about halfway.
     
  5. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Than possibly debris with toning around it. I believe the "six" is in the wrong position.

    Hey, perhaps you have a rare "Discovery Coin" with another over date position for the 7/6.
     
  6. BoredOnHere

    BoredOnHere New Member

    I was wondering that myself, but since it (might be) an EDS, it might be different idk.

    How does metal "debris" attach and tone around it? I've never really heard of that.

    RE: "Discovery Coin" - Not sure if that was sarcasm or not hahaha
     
  7. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Variety Nerd

    Poke it with a stick to see if it comes off. Like a toothpick or rose thorn. Definitely not a vam 3. The date is right of normal and slanted on your coin and the v3 has an almost near left of normal non-slanted date
     
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  8. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    I just duplicated Cascade's post before I actually read it. :)
     
  9. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Anything is possible...I've found almost a dozen over the years but only three belonged to me.:(
     
  10. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    It doesn't look like it to me, but maybe I've grown more blind.

    Chris
     
  11. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    :(:facepalm: There goes your pool game.
     
  12. BoredOnHere

    BoredOnHere New Member

    Can't - It's slabbed MS64 in PCGS holder.

    If it's not a VAM-3 overdate then oh well.
     
  13. BoredOnHere

    BoredOnHere New Member

    Ugh. Yeah usually VAM-3's are weak and hard to spot. In that case I have no idea what this is, since I can't break the holder open.
     
  14. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    You could with the right tools. :) I just do not recommend it for this coin - looks kind of frosty. Nice coin.
     
  15. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    I had to quit playing pool about 5 years ago because of an intention tremor in my stroke hand. That's okay! I enjoyed the game for 55 years.

    Chris
     
  16. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Variety Nerd

    Try vam 42
     
  17. redcent230

    redcent230 Well-Known Member

    Nice looking coin anyway
     
  18. Dave Waterstraat

    Dave Waterstraat Well-Known Member

    Post a full image of the obverse and reverse and someone will likely nail the attribution for you. She's a normal date position slightly slanted but since there are no normal/slanted date listings it will fall under normal position.
     
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