Except in this case, everyone who's posted is sure this coin is in the AU grade range. Uhm, Chris did nail it. If you look at his post he said,
He's one of the many who come here and ask for a grade on their coin, and then get insulted and strike back when they don't agree with the opinion that they asked for--definite ignore list material. I was trying to be constructive--that BOTH dates are hard to find out of a slab in MS condition, but that doesn't seem to have penetrated the gray matter there. So, why bother? He will disappear, like others who do exactly the same and don't like the opinion rendered of the coin. Ok, mr OP--where is the NGC slabbed coin of which you speak--no pictures of that one, I bet...lol
Well that's "supposed" to be how it is, but when dealing with the TPGs the reality is, it isn't that way at all. In recent years there have been several articles written by noted numismatists that propose the idea that yesterday's AU55 and AU58 coins are today's MS61's and MS62's, and in some cases even today's MS63's. Even the PCGS grading book states flat out that coins with light wear can be graded as high as MS67. So much for the idea that there should be no wear on an MS60 coin.
GDJMSP i totally agree and basically this being an au58 in the eyes of ngc would mean it has a shot to holder into a 61 slab?. So and im playing devils advocate a bit but basically any ogh or rattler with an high au rating should be resubmitted if its a condition rarity?
Personally I think the coin is a 53 or a 55 at best, it has quite a bit of wear on it. But I gave up some time ago trying to guess how the TPGs will grade any given coin. There was a time that was true. But you have to understand that the OGH was used until about the end of 1998. And it became widely known that coins in these slabs had a good chance of upgrading by 2000 because of a change in TPG grading standards. So collectors and dealers began resubmitting those OGH slabs in huge numbers. In just a few short years the coins in OGH slabs had been so picked over and examined for a chance at upgrading that those few still left in OGH were generally agreed to have little or no chance of upgrading because they had been over-graded when they were first slabbed in the OGH's. Then in 2004 the TPG grading standards changed yet again, becoming even more lenient. And there was another surge of resubmitting coins in OGH's, with the same result. So, in today's world the few coins left in OGH's are usually looked at as being stuck right where they are, in other words maxed out in regard to grade. So unless you are very good at grading a coin yourself and capable of picking out a winner or finding one that was missed, it is generally considered to be a waste of time trying to get an OGH slab upgraded.