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<p>[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 419879, member: 15309"]This is a very good point. GD is analyzing a blown up photograph of the coin whereas multiple graders had the opportunity to view the actual coin in hand. It is hard for me to believe that multiple graders at PCGS would see a weak strike with discoloration and just ignore it without pulling out their loupes. This is not a market graded coin from AU to MS as Eddie implied. This coin in MS64 barely qualifies as a rare coin and no grader in his right mind would market grade an 1883-O Morgan from AU to MS. The graders of this coin thought that it was a mint state coin, not AU. This is not the first time that I have said this. I will continue to trust the opinion of multiple professional graders at a reputable TPG who had the opportunity to view the coin in hand over a seasoned collector who looked at photo. </p><p><br /></p><p>GD, I want you to know that I am not doubting your expertise, experience, or grading ability, but again, I find it very presumptuous of you to determine that the PCGS graders are wrong based on a photo, and not a good one at that. Additionally, from what I have seen, your grading standards are about the most stringent I have ever seen. </p><p><br /></p><p>After all, I posted an MS68 Morgan Dollar guess the grade thread that you publicly criticized NGC for overgrading badly. After I posted an entire thread dedicated to the subtleties of the Morgan Dollar MS67 grade which included that coin, your comments were conspicuously absent.</p><p><br /></p><p>IMO, you need to realize that many of the members of this forum take your opinion as fact, and I think you should be a little less definitive when disputing the opinions of the graders of NGC and PCGS based on photos. Hell, you have Rhoggman ready to dump the coin at a loss based simply on your post. You have the right to think that this coin is AU all you want, but that does not change the fact that it is simply that, an opinion. An opinion based on a photograph.</p><p><br /></p><p>I agree with leadfoot 100%, this is a weakly struck Morgan Dollar and it is properly graded, IMO. However, I have a proposal that I think will solve the debate. If Rhoggman will sell me the coin at his cost, I will crack it and submit it to NGC. If both TPG's call it MS64, I guess we can't argue with that.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 419879, member: 15309"]This is a very good point. GD is analyzing a blown up photograph of the coin whereas multiple graders had the opportunity to view the actual coin in hand. It is hard for me to believe that multiple graders at PCGS would see a weak strike with discoloration and just ignore it without pulling out their loupes. This is not a market graded coin from AU to MS as Eddie implied. This coin in MS64 barely qualifies as a rare coin and no grader in his right mind would market grade an 1883-O Morgan from AU to MS. The graders of this coin thought that it was a mint state coin, not AU. This is not the first time that I have said this. I will continue to trust the opinion of multiple professional graders at a reputable TPG who had the opportunity to view the coin in hand over a seasoned collector who looked at photo. GD, I want you to know that I am not doubting your expertise, experience, or grading ability, but again, I find it very presumptuous of you to determine that the PCGS graders are wrong based on a photo, and not a good one at that. Additionally, from what I have seen, your grading standards are about the most stringent I have ever seen. After all, I posted an MS68 Morgan Dollar guess the grade thread that you publicly criticized NGC for overgrading badly. After I posted an entire thread dedicated to the subtleties of the Morgan Dollar MS67 grade which included that coin, your comments were conspicuously absent. IMO, you need to realize that many of the members of this forum take your opinion as fact, and I think you should be a little less definitive when disputing the opinions of the graders of NGC and PCGS based on photos. Hell, you have Rhoggman ready to dump the coin at a loss based simply on your post. You have the right to think that this coin is AU all you want, but that does not change the fact that it is simply that, an opinion. An opinion based on a photograph. I agree with leadfoot 100%, this is a weakly struck Morgan Dollar and it is properly graded, IMO. However, I have a proposal that I think will solve the debate. If Rhoggman will sell me the coin at his cost, I will crack it and submit it to NGC. If both TPG's call it MS64, I guess we can't argue with that.[/QUOTE]
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