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<p>[QUOTE="jtlee321, post: 3023865, member: 73983"]I think it's funny that if that 1882-S Rattler in 63 is what a 63 was supposed to look like, then where are all the Gold CAC 1882-S MS-63 rattlers? I've seen many MS-63 1879-S - 1882-S Morgan Rattlers that look no where near like the example you showed. Those were graded properly and the example you showed was graded improperly, hence the Gold CAC.</p><p><br /></p><p>CAC was not formed until nearly 20 years after that coin was graded. That rattler was graded between 1986 and 1989, CAC was formed in 2007. John Albanese who founded CAC also was a founder of both PCGS and NGC. I'll take his opinion on graded coins every day of the week. I don't buy CAC coins blindly, in fact, I've only bought one or two coins that already had a CAC sticker on them. I buy the coin and not the holder, unless I like the holder AND the coin in it.</p><p><br /></p><p>The only thing consistent about the TPG's is their inconsistency. Their grading standards ebb and flow between conservative and liberal. Right now, many would argue that they have both shifted towards the conservative side and have tightened up, both on the grading and opinions on toning. In another year or two that will probably swing back the other way. That's how they stay in business. CAC recognizes that and is why they were formed. In the 10 years that CAC has been around, I don't think anyone could argue that their standards have wavered much. Have they made mistakes? Yes, they are not infallible. But you don't hear people saying "Those must have been submitted to CAC back in '09, they would never get a sticker today".[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="jtlee321, post: 3023865, member: 73983"]I think it's funny that if that 1882-S Rattler in 63 is what a 63 was supposed to look like, then where are all the Gold CAC 1882-S MS-63 rattlers? I've seen many MS-63 1879-S - 1882-S Morgan Rattlers that look no where near like the example you showed. Those were graded properly and the example you showed was graded improperly, hence the Gold CAC. CAC was not formed until nearly 20 years after that coin was graded. That rattler was graded between 1986 and 1989, CAC was formed in 2007. John Albanese who founded CAC also was a founder of both PCGS and NGC. I'll take his opinion on graded coins every day of the week. I don't buy CAC coins blindly, in fact, I've only bought one or two coins that already had a CAC sticker on them. I buy the coin and not the holder, unless I like the holder AND the coin in it. The only thing consistent about the TPG's is their inconsistency. Their grading standards ebb and flow between conservative and liberal. Right now, many would argue that they have both shifted towards the conservative side and have tightened up, both on the grading and opinions on toning. In another year or two that will probably swing back the other way. That's how they stay in business. CAC recognizes that and is why they were formed. In the 10 years that CAC has been around, I don't think anyone could argue that their standards have wavered much. Have they made mistakes? Yes, they are not infallible. But you don't hear people saying "Those must have been submitted to CAC back in '09, they would never get a sticker today".[/QUOTE]
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