1882S Morgan MS65 CAC-Do you Agree with the Grade?

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  1. Bman33

    Bman33 Well-Known Member

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  3. Beefer518

    Beefer518 Well-Known Member

    Looks more like a 64 to me.
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  4. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    I agree with the grade. Looks like a nice coin to me. The reverse has a bit too much chatter, maybe. But 65 is fair IMHO.

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    I'd say 63. And before somebody's jaw breaks their keyboard - please remember this first. The early S mint Morgans are and always have been held to a tougher standard when it comes to grading them. Or at least they are supposed to be. So 65 for that coin, well it's badly over-graded.
  6. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    It's difficult to tell, as the intensity of the luster is poorly conveyed by the images.
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  7. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    The marks on her cheek could be slightly superficial (very light contact) I agree with the 65 grade.

    edit I am sure that there are better examples of the grade and CAC.
    Last edited: Mar 8, 2018
  8. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Based on today's standards, I agree.

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  9. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Yes it’s a 65 no matter what anyone types.
  10. Dave Waterstraat

    Dave Waterstraat Well-Known Member

    I agree with 65. Lighting can be brutal when photographing coins.
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  11. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    Yea, the hits and luster breaks might not be as noticeable in hand. I wouldnt pay any premium for this coin though. The sticker doesnt enhance the coin in any way, shape, fashion, or form.
  12. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member

    I've never been a fan of Heritage's imaging techniques. Can you say leaves a lot to be desired. I know I'd never try to sell an eye appealing coin through them. But interpreting their images of this coin, I feel it's a typical CAC 65 for the date. As other's have said, I would not pay a premium for the CAC.
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  13. Bman33

    Bman33 Well-Known Member

    Thanks all for the input. I had questions about the luster too. That and what do you think of the "dents" under the second U in Pluribus and above the first 8 in the date?
  14. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    I’m not a fan of their picture style either. They seem to just phone it in a lot of times when it’s not a six figure coin.
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  15. cpm9ball

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    Those are not prime focal areas, so minor hits tend to carry less weight in grading.

  16. Steven Hufschmidt

    Steven Hufschmidt Active Member

    looks like there is something written under the sticker. see the two black marks?
  17. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    It is a weak strike, but looks 65 to me. I would have said low in grade.
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  18. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    I think it's a i want you for a return customer 65. Coin has WAY to many hits for a 65. Don't think tpg even looked at reverse. 63 at best
  19. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    I too agree with your assessment
  20. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    I think grading is loosing its purpose. Have seen some really crazy grades lately
  21. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    I'm ok with that being in a 65 holder, especially if you compare it to many currently graded 64 Morgans. I wouldn't call it a high end 65; it's not an A/A+ but more like a B/B+, which still fits in with the Green CAC sticker.
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