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<p>[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2660766, member: 24314"]OP's coin is 100% counterfeit. Now, please forgive me for the way I will come across <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie84" alt=":smug:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> as we all started as uninformed collectors. This rant is directed to no one here. </p><p><br /></p><p>I am just now editing my original post to remove several characteristics that ID this C/F die; however, I will confirm two major defects as they have already been pointed out. The reverse is terrible. There are lathe lines in the field and a very granular surface on the relief. IMO, since this piece is not made to/and will not fool any competent numismatist, removing those defects will not make this piece any more deceptive. One thing I learned about genuine coins is they are usually made to be a well-finished product. While every defect on a counterfeit will eventually be seen on a genuine coin such as in this case the lathe lines and granular relief, it is not common. Look at the "unfinished, rough appearance of the fake compared to the genuine images. </p><p><br /></p><p>On a scale of 1-10 with 1 being a counterfeit that would not fool your blind grandmother and 10 being a fake that gets slabbed and passes detection for a year, this is in the 3-4 range. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Note to OP: Your first image is excellent. The sharp reverse image is also. The others are of no help. It is too bad everyone asking for opinions cannot provide sharp images such as yours that blow up larger. Unfortunately, in this day and age, I don't wish to point out any more faults on your piece. </p><p>However, you and others should be able to identify a lot of them.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2660766, member: 24314"]OP's coin is 100% counterfeit. Now, please forgive me for the way I will come across :smug: as we all started as uninformed collectors. This rant is directed to no one here. I am just now editing my original post to remove several characteristics that ID this C/F die; however, I will confirm two major defects as they have already been pointed out. The reverse is terrible. There are lathe lines in the field and a very granular surface on the relief. IMO, since this piece is not made to/and will not fool any competent numismatist, removing those defects will not make this piece any more deceptive. One thing I learned about genuine coins is they are usually made to be a well-finished product. While every defect on a counterfeit will eventually be seen on a genuine coin such as in this case the lathe lines and granular relief, it is not common. Look at the "unfinished, rough appearance of the fake compared to the genuine images. On a scale of 1-10 with 1 being a counterfeit that would not fool your blind grandmother and 10 being a fake that gets slabbed and passes detection for a year, this is in the 3-4 range. ;) Note to OP: Your first image is excellent. The sharp reverse image is also. The others are of no help. It is too bad everyone asking for opinions cannot provide sharp images such as yours that blow up larger. Unfortunately, in this day and age, I don't wish to point out any more faults on your piece. However, you and others should be able to identify a lot of them.[/QUOTE]
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